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I'm tempted by Nigel Farage !

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NanKate Fri 28-Feb-14 20:27:46

I have always voted Conservative but for the first time in my life I feel tempted to vote Ukip.

I like the way NF is not frightened to say things other politicians daren't say, such as our island has too many people in it and not enough Services e.g. NHS to deal with us all.

I am only against the NUMBER of people who come here, not who they are or where they have come from.

I live in a town that has a great grammar school that gives opportunities to children from all backgrounds. Long may it continue.

We are so PC now in the UK I daren't voice some of my other thoughts in case I am quite unfairly accused of being against this or that group.

I find it a sad that the UK is no longer the country I remember from my childhood.

Riverwalk Thu 01-May-14 14:25:44

No way is the photo of NF genuine!

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 09:26:41

Not necessarily agreeing with Nigel's views, but even politicians were young and foolish once (with the possible exception of William Hague).
And it doesn't really look like Nigel.

Meanwhile, he has gone from the recycling bin to be recycled by the Council (as will all the others when they plop through my front door).

grannyactivist Fri 02-May-14 13:41:33

The 'punk' NF is a photoshpped job.
www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/just-in-case-anyone-still-thinks-nigel-farage-was-a-punk-in

grannyactivist Fri 02-May-14 13:42:00

Or even photoshopped! blush

HollyDaze Fri 02-May-14 14:37:44

You beat me to it grannyactivist; it does go to show what harm can be done to a person when others fail to research properly and just choose to believe the hype of the opposition.

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HollyDaze Fri 02-May-14 14:49:22

I have quickly scanned the article posted by annodomini and it reads as a bog standard smear article and most of what was written could apply equally to any of the main parties. Question Time was a tad bit embarrassing for both Labour and Tory when a similar question was put to their representative on the panel last night.

Others will give their endorsement because they have come to despise the other parties and the establishment

That, imo, is what will give rise to success for UKIP.

durhamjen Fri 02-May-14 14:49:50

Thanks, Ana.

annodomini Fri 02-May-14 16:07:38

As far as I am concerned, HollyDaze, 'smears' are allegations; the link I posted deals with facts about UKIP that are a matter of record.

POGS Fri 02-May-14 16:09:49

The point is photo's like that either real or not will do no harm to him, nor the other's because they are either going to be viewed as humerous, political spinning or trivia by most sensible people surely, dependant upon your like or dislike of the person involved.

I like Andrew Neils take on Forage, he is 'TEFLON COATED', nothing sticks to him no matter how hard people try.

durhamjen Fri 02-May-14 19:05:15

Anyone else notice that Farage will get a pension of £41,000 fron the EU, whatever happens in these elections?
Do you think he'll give it up?

annodomini Fri 02-May-14 19:13:50

A gravy train is a gravy train, jen, no matter which station it started from. Of course Mr Garbage would accept it, just as he takes full advantage of the EU's over-generous expenses.

POGS Fri 02-May-14 20:19:25

Perhaps he will when the likes of Kinnock,, Mandelson etc. etc.etc.etc.etc.

Your point is exactly why he is doing so well.

People are sick to the back teeth of political spin and my party is different to your party scenario.

It is simply what the EU system hands out. If you don't like it then vote against the EU not defend it as an institution.

Ana Fri 02-May-14 20:25:21

I wonder why Nick Clegg isn't getting an EU pension. Or is he/will he?

Silverfish Fri 02-May-14 21:00:38

I have always voted for someone else each time there was an election because its so confusing. do we vote for the part that seems to do most for us such as older people voting for the party that promises better pensions or should we rise above and vote for the party that is better for the uk as a whole, I voted for conservative last time as I thought they would get us out of the economic mess. I haven't a clue who to vote for the next time. I also would like to see all parties being banned from name calling its so childish, surely they can each promise whatever they are going to do without knocking the other side. can anyone advise me

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 21:52:07

Monster Raving Loony Party, Silverfish. They did quite well in the local elections in Devon years ago as far as I remember. Was that the time I voted for them hmm

JessM Fri 02-May-14 21:57:16

Pretty good pension for not doing the job of MEP isn't it

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 22:23:49

A lot of people seem to get very large pay-offs, pensions (plus a wonderful new job quite often) for abject failure nowadays.

hmm where can I get a job like that?

HollyDaze Fri 02-May-14 23:00:17

annodomini

As far as I am concerned, HollyDaze, 'smears' are allegations; the link I posted deals with facts about UKIP that are a matter of record

As far as I'm concerned, the 'facts' are somewhat one-sided with no clarification of, or even reference t, the reasons UKIP may have had for their decision making on those matters. If the facts speak for themselves (which they generally don't), why were the reasons omitted from the article?

They all have nasty friends worldwide - it's been publicised enough so how does that make UKIP any different to any of the others?

Unsavoury characters:

Labour - Deborah Hopkins
Lib Dems - Ajit Atwal (for posing with an AK47 and then putting photo on his twitter page)
Labour - Yogalingam Dayanamby - falsely claiming council tax benefit
Tories - Dr Peter Moseley, was previously a member of the BNP
Lib Dems - John Larsen for setting off explosives along the Denbigh coastline
Labour - Simon Parkes has claimed he fathered a child with an alien he regularly meets up with for extra-terrestrial sex.
Tories - MP Aidan Burley, organised a Nazi-themed stag party at an Alpine ski resort
Tories - an MP’s aide, Stewart Green, was forced to resign for calling feminists “whingeing imbeciles” who “need a good slap.”
Tories - Councillor Chris Joannides was removed from the Party last week for sharing an “inappropriate” picture on Facebook that suggests burkas resembled binbags.

I could pull the rest of that article apart quite easily by highlighting that they are all guilty of the same thing. You may choose to believe that UKIP hold a monopoly on unsavoury characters and beliefs and that, of course, is your prerogative; I prefer a more balanced view.

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 23:06:23

Simon Parkes sounds the most sane to me. hmm

durhamjen Sat 03-May-14 00:03:25

I agree, rose. I can't understand why that is listed as unsavoury. At least he will not be accused of evading his responsibilities as a father! And he's not having an affair with somebody else's wife.

durhamjen Sat 03-May-14 00:09:20

Green party, silverfish. The only complaint against them seems to be that they will not get many seats so it's a wasted vote. However, that applies to most votes as very few parties get over 50% of any vote.
Or the NHA party if you live in an area where they putting up candidates, mainly London. Rufus Hound is standing for them. I'd quite like to see him get elected.

Silverfish Sat 03-May-14 20:14:30

Actually im thinking of voting for the greens, we have a strong candidate here in Northumberland and Im into tree hugging, very interested in caring for our earth and conservation etc etc so yes I might give them my vote.

rosequartz Sat 03-May-14 20:47:38

I know a few people who must be the offspring of aliens.

HollyDaze Sun 04-May-14 15:00:20

Well, if Simon Parkes is to be believed, you may well know the offspring of aliens; he states that he is one of few people who will actually own up to it for fear of ridicule. The 53-year-old driving instructor said his wife was ‘unhappy’ about the alien affair but said he doesn’t see it as wrong as ‘it is not a human level’. Mr Parkes says he is beamed up for space sex four times a year by the extra-terrestrial he calls the Cat Queen and claims they have a child together called Zarka.

Here are more of his claims if you feel like a bit of light reading:

ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/simon-parkes-the-alien-agenda-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know-new-horizons-2014-highly-recommended/

North Yorkshire may want to give some serious thought to their local elections ...

rosequartz Sun 04-May-14 15:07:48

Where does this child live, I wonder? Better off with Mum than Dad I would imagine!