Peaches Geldof

Where were the children??

Thank you Grannyknot

Such a waste of a young life, however it happened, and more sadness for the family.

I've heard nothing about the children. further details will come out later, I think.

The DM on line had a lot of coverage on this tragedy, most of it sympathetic and appropriate. The only thing that rankled for me, was that in two separate articles, the journalist made clear statements about "her slender frame", her "skinny" body. The references were made in the context of discussion about how she "seemed" to given up drugs as a result of the birth of her children. One commented on how thin/skinny she is, despite having given birth to 2 children.

I was a very skinny young woman. I took no illegal drugs, and ate huge amounts of food. I was back in size 10 levi's 2 weeks after my first child was born. Peaches was evidently following the attachment parenting style, which involves feeding on demand, carrying the baby, co-sleeping etc. It isn't hard to accept all this activity, in a young woman who seems naturally slim, is what's kept her from getting fat. If she'd kept her pregnancy weight, she'd have been criticised for that.

Rant over!

It is possible for people to just die suddenly with no cause ever being found on autopsy. In fact it is more common than people may think.

Yes, sudden adult death syndrome (SADS) springs to mind.

12 young people under 35 die each week as a result of SADS. My 16 year old healthy niece died of this last year. I know first hand how a sudden unexpected death of a child can affect a family. It is tragic.

That's awful Suzied. The shock of such a sudden death is unbelievable. Having no cause of death leaves everyone wondering 'why'?

It's strange that she put a photo of herself with her mum just before she died. I did read that it is is actually possible to die of a broken heart [can't remember the facts though].

I saw Peaches on the Sport Relief dogs competition and she didn't look too skinny then. As Iam says she was a busy mum, dashing about - she also had TV commitments and some writing projects on the go. So much to enjoy in her life.

I saw a picture she posted of herself with dog , she looked very heavy eyed , tired & gaunt
Still youngsters do take it out of you I suppose.
Seems such a shame those little uns are going to be without their Mum!

My husband had four children, including our two, sadly his eldest son from his first marriage died of sudden adult death syndrome nearly 10 years ago, so we are very aware of this disorder. He is wondering whether this is what had happened to Peaches. However, it seems in her quest to be very thin she frequently embarked on some sort of liquidised vegetable diet, eating nothing else for prolonged periods of time to achieve extreme weight loss. I read somewhere that this sort of dieting is very dangerous in that it can cause cardiac arrest. I believe the results from the initial post mortem are inconclusive and they are awaiting further reports. Whatever the outcome it's a great tragedy, but looking at how fine Peaches looked a few years ago I think it's unbelievably awful that a young women would put herself on a perilous eating regime just to look emaciated.

Such bad news Our thoughts go out to Poor Bob Geldolf who has now lost two members of his Family.

It is sad and seems against the natural order when a young woman dies, and is especially sad if she has children. However, my thoughts aren't going out to Bob Geldolf. However, they have recently been with the many people of the Solomon Islands who are bereaved, injured and homeless as a result of the terrible floods.

Can we not have sympathy in both those situations absent?

Exactly. You can't just cut one situation off because there's another one.

You sounded just like someone else there, absent. Of course we can have compassion for other situations/people/tragic occurrences all at the same time!

You have said before Absent that you find it hard to empathise.

By contrast I feel so much for Bob Geldolf and understand what he meant when he said he was 'beyond pain'.

I do think it's quite sad that on the same day, two mothers drowned trying to rescue their young children who'd been swept out to sea - on holiday, I believe, and yet their tragic deaths merited only a mention half way through the news that night.

Of course you feel empathy Aka it must bring back what you as a family went through,and we must have sympathy for anyone going through loss of a loved one whatever age they are.

Yes Dragonfly another dreadful loss.We had more coverage in the Northwest as one woman was a consultant in the care of Mothers and Children at a local hospital and the other, a family member, was a GP.

Aka ((hug))

There was plenty of coverage where I live about the two doctors who lost their lives trying to save those children, and I must admit I was very affected by that story.

Peaches was the well-known daughter of a famous pop star and it's understandable the media would report her death. I'm more irritated by the assumption that we all want to know the details of the Pistorious trial - you can't get away from it!

That was such a tragic story Ana

Surely there isn't a set limit for empathy, or indeed sympathy?

yes, all of us may be governed or restricted by the amount of financial or even physical support/practical help/assistance that we are able to give to specific causes or events, but thinking of those affected and sending positive good wishes wouldn't/shouldn't be beyond limits?

There has already been a fair amount of discussion on GN about religious beliefs, plus some talk about other ways of using the power of thought, whether you believe in those or not, I don't think I'm speaking out of turn to suggest that who ever might be suffering, wherever they are and what type of suffering they may be undergoing, we can all spare the odd moment of good thoughts for them.

I was merely pointing out that another poster is not in a position to describe my feelings or thoughts. It's similar to those so-called news stories which begin "Everyone was watching…" or the whole world is waiting for…" or "we all want …". I resent someone else speaking randomly on my behalf. Heaven knows – and so do gransnetters – that I am perfectly capable of speaking for myself.

I have never said that I find it hard to empathise full stop, but I have said that I find it hard to empathise when I am looking at a situation of which I have absolutely no experience, as empathy involves not just understanding but also sharing someone else's feelings. I think the example I gave before was a friend whose child had been murdered by her partner who was executed in the United States about ten years later. I found that wholly beyond my emotional grasp.

I have never found it hard to sympathise with the bereaved and, indeed, do with the entire family of Peaches Geldof but, obviously, not in an intimate way.