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Our boy Jeremy again

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jinglbellsfrocks Fri 02-May-14 19:12:17

What do you think of his "use" of the 'n' word?

considering the context

Big fuss over nothing I think. He di try to blur the word over. grin

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 02-May-14 23:02:38

That wasn't a play on words!

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 23:03:40

I need a medicinal brandy now, never mind a wine

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 02-May-14 23:05:00

I like number 3.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 02-May-14 23:06:26

moon (before Cari sees this)

merlotgran Fri 02-May-14 23:07:11

Oooooh, roses. You've just reminded me I still have some Calvados left from our holiday....Cheers!!

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 23:07:37

Before you get even more giddy!

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 23:09:39

I meant jings (X post), but you could get giddy too, merlotgran. It's strong stuff - which reminds me DD2 brought me a bottle back which I haven't finished.....

merlotgran Fri 02-May-14 23:09:42

I'm going to have to do some research on jingl's post.

Not being familiar with urban slang. grin

DebnCreme Fri 02-May-14 23:12:45

I am coming up for 65 and we used to say 'Nipper'. We certainly knew the problem of the using the word 'Nigger'. I can remember having aparteid (? spelling) explained to us by a very sensible teacher whom I admire to this day.

Please can we have the return of the golliw.... though, I was devastated when mine disappeared.

merlotgran Fri 02-May-14 23:27:30

Hush, DebnCreme. Remember what happened to Carol Thatcher when she mentioned the G word?

On the Isle of Wight, Nipper is a term used for a young lad but also a form of greeting from one male to another. Shouting, 'Nipper' across the street means, 'Wotcha, Mate'

DebnCreme Fri 02-May-14 23:39:26

Oo-er. Losing mine could have damaged me for life. Taken by my parents I expect so that no-one was upset. Taking a friend by the toe could worl - just.

rosequartz Fri 02-May-14 23:43:37

I wish I still had my lovely golly, he had rabbit fur hair and very smart clothes.

Eloethan Fri 02-May-14 23:55:21

I think JC knows just what he is doing, even though after the event he throws up his hands in horror and professes innocence. What about the "slopes" remark - do people really believe that was an innocent use of words? It seems to me he takes great delight in provoking outrage and, in his arrogance, trusts that he will get away with it yet again.

MiniMouse Sat 03-May-14 00:00:53

Rosequartz Similar to your MiL, I remember my mother back in the 1950s going into our local department store and buying reels of cotton and the shade was 'N' brown. No-one thought twice about it, it was just a descriptive way of describing the shade of brown. I don't remember it ever being used in a derogatory way back then, but perhaps I was just naive!

annodomini Sat 03-May-14 00:03:55

I do wonder what he has to do before the BBC will sack him. Even if they did, he'd probably take himself off to the other side - just like Jonathan Ross did.

merlotgran Sat 03-May-14 00:15:57

Why on earth would the BBC want to sack him?

durhamjen Sat 03-May-14 01:19:40

Wish they would, though. If ever there was an anachronism, it's him. It's strange that he manages to get away with what he does and says all the time.

DonnaBe Sat 03-May-14 07:45:08

It was definitely "baby" when I was growing up. Probably a regional thing as much as an age thing.

Aka Sat 03-May-14 07:56:13

Sorry to say Mini you must have either been incredibly naive or perhaps you just didn't know any black people personally.
Wonder how many GNetters are not 'white, British' as listed in ethnic tic boxes? Bet 90% plus. That's the beauty of forums. Unless we choose to tell others something about ourselves we're all colour blind and that's great.

Eloethan has hit the nail on the head. Of course he knew what he was doing. All that wide-eyed innocent apology? A load of piss-taking.

JessM Sat 03-May-14 08:06:55

I would sack him. Top Gear is a nasty programme which revolves around grown men in their 40s and 50s behaving like children - and the toys are high powered cars. It plays to the notion that it is OK for men to behave like naughty little boys who can mischievously drive in a dangerous manner and say wickedly controversial things. He frequently rubbishes "health and safety" and anything remotely related to cutting carbon emissions.

feetlebaum Sat 03-May-14 08:17:31

Can't be doing with Top Gear - but Clarkson is an entertaining wind-up merchant.

papaoscar Sat 03-May-14 08:41:31

What I can't understand about Top Gear is why it is so popular amongst both men and women. I rarely watch it but I have noticed that whilst the principal performers wallow in the spotlight of publicity to do their silly things, the audience just stand around in the half-shadows baying in adulation of their heroes. I find that all rather sad but, sad or not, the programme is extremely popular world-wide and financially very remunerative. That is all that seems to matter these days and justifies the offence they cause to many people.

As regards Mr Clarkson, he seems to need the reassurance of constant publicity, any publicity, and for all his money and success I think he is to be pitied. I think Mr May and Mr Hammond do much better on their own, and it has to be said that even some of Mr Clarkson's solo media performances are well done and not offensive. Perhaps the problem is that their combined efforts just bring out the worst of them but, at the end if the day, nobody is forced to watch, listen or worship them.

DebnCreme Sat 03-May-14 09:16:19

Oh PO sorry but I love Top Gear. It's watching grown men doing the things I would like to do, even to the point of trashing certain vehicles because they are a menace on the road. How I wish I had the courage to take off round their track.

Also like Jeremy too because he often - not in this case - comes out with some home truths. Love reading his books.

jinglbellsfrocks Sat 03-May-14 09:27:33

I don't usually watch Top Gear, but when I do (when grandsons are here) I usually enjoy it. I think JC is funny, and I do like the three of them being "lads together".

According to his own admission in his newspaper column today he is on a very final warning from the Beeb.

thatbags Sat 03-May-14 10:38:50

Likewise, debn. They are acting a part and some of TG is interesting even to me who knows damn all about cars. I particularly remember an episode they did in Spain; it really brought home to MrB and me just how badly Spain had been hit by recession. Another one I liked a lot was the one about vehicles made in Britain; that was really impressive, stunning even.

I think Mr Slow and the Hamster are decent blokes. I think "Jennifer" is decent too, though whether I'd like to be in his company, or that of either of the others, is another doubtful matter. It's an act, and often a funny one, from start to finish and he is very good at exposing nonsense for what it is.

And there's another reason I like it: minibags is one of only two girls in her year (that she's aware of anyhow, out of approx 250; I bet there are more girls who like it but daren't say so, which is a shame) who isn't fazed by the fact that it's seen as a boys' programme. #feminist
She, at thirteen, understands the ridiculous and outrageous humour for what it is and laughs at it.