Anti-Jewish double standards

Overlocker - a key turned twice for deadlock

Wrong thread.

Oh! What's the point in posting anything on here?!

We're not bloody school-kids! Every word got to be censored.

Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion and if someone can't distinguish between the words Islam and Islam extremism then I'm entitled to call that intellectual rubbish because it is

I can only guess what the deleted post said, but if it was criticising Islamists for their treatment of Christians, at the present time that could be considered understandable.

It wasn't jingle.

Maybe people applying to join Gransnet should pass a common entrance exam.

But of course, we don't know what the post said. Because it upset some poster, or HQr, who is more important than the rest of us.

Oh I dang know about common entrance merlot but if you want to,post on some topics a bit of knowledge goes a long way

merlot I'll get me coat.

Jings It was a blanket statement in very strong terms. I don't think I am breaking any forum guidelines by saying that.

Jings If GNHQ had let it stand they could have been considered to have condoned the incitement of religious hatred.

I think the West should put "boots on the ground" against the IS. We started it all off by getting rid of Saddam Hussein.

We should have intervened forcefully in Syria too.

I think it's our fault. It was under control before.

I've wandered a bit off the original subject. Sorry.

If anyone wishes to think further about the subject of the OP, there is an article in the Guardian by Owen Jones on the subject and a reply to that by Douglas Murray in the Spectator. IMO Murray has a certain (writing) class that Jones lacks.

this article?

Is he really saying we should excuse the Israelis because of past wrongs done to them? Surely not!

jingle On the one hand you say it was a mistake getting rid of Saddam Hussein and yet you wanted the US/UK to get rid of Assad.

As I understand it, ISIS is a combination of Syrian and Iraqi rebels. On 15 February, Time magazine reported:

"Arab backers of the Syrian opposition are stepping up their military support for the rebels, providing the beleaguered forces with more sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry in the wake of a second round of inconclusive talks with the Syrian regime.

The Wall Street Journal, citing an unnamed Arab diplomat and opposition sources, said that Saudi Arabia would give the Syrian opposition Chinese man-portable air defense systems, or Manpads, and antitank guided missiles from Russia. The U.S. has opposed that kind of military support out of fear that the weapons could fall into the hands of terrorists or al-Qaeda affiliates.

The new aid is being delivered directly to the more moderate Free Syrian Army in the south of Syria, which has been launching an offensive against government forces since January. Meanwhile, the U.S. has increased its financial support of the rebels, paying million of dollars for the fighters’ salaries."

So it appears that the original arming of the rebels came from the US's close ally, Saudi Arabia, and, despite worries about such assistance falling into the wrong hands, substantial funding was provided by the US in an attempt to defeat Assad. It seems that providing weapons and money to "carefully selected" rebel groups (as the article described them - not quite sure what criteria for selection they used) was probably not a good idea.

I suppose this isn't stupid anti-semitism either?

People boycotted South African goods when the blacks of SA said it would help. That above isn't a boycott.

Jingle I reported the post because it clearly broke the guidelines as outlined in www.gransnet.com/info/netiquette
Why is it jingle that every time something is deleted you can't just accept that the moderators have a duty to delete certain posts that transgress these rules guidelines? Sometimes they even have to do this to stay within legal guidelines.
I know it is annoying that they do so without consulting you first but that's life, so why bother protesting?

You're protesting too, jess. Why not just ignore jings' protests? It's how she is.

I think it's helpful for everyone to know that posting those sorts of comments online is a racially aggravated public order offence.

Yes, and dealt with by HQ. Screeching about it on here (not you, jess) just strikes me as childish and should be treated with the contempt it deserves.

But... maybe some people do need telling

bags why is it anti-Semitic to conduct a peaceful protest by boycotting Israeli goods and taking them off shelves? Israelis are not all Jews - there are Christians and Muslims in Israel, and very likely other religious groups, too. The protest is about the Israeli government's oppression of the citizens of Gaza, not about Jews. There are plenty of Jewish people here in Manchester who also object to how Israel is treating Palestine, going back many years before the current crisis.

Allright, anti-Israel. It's not wrong to boycott a country's goods. What's wrong is unilaterally removing the choice from other people. I have boycotted Israeli goods for years but it's not for me to impose my judgments and my choices on other people in such a 'loud', and I think aggressive, way. If you believe in freedom of choice you have to believe in everyone having the same choices as you want for yourself. Anything else is not freedom.

People did not unilaterally remove South African goods from shop shelves. At least, not where I lived.