Anti-Jewish double standards

I agree with you dorsetpennt, I hate this re-emergence of anti Semitism, and Councils, who represent all who they preside over should not express partisan views, that could encourage an anti Jewish backlash. That's not to say I am not aware of the injustices that the Palestinian people suffer

Again, like you I'm all for aid to the people injured in Gaza and for the plight of the persecuted minorities in Syria and Iraq. Do the same people who express anti Semitic views also feel outrage at the murderous activities carried out by ISIS, if that's what they are still called, who seem hell bent on dragging their part of the world back into some medieval hell.

George Galloway - friend of that murderer Saddam Hussein , doesn't surprise me one bit. The local Synagogue has mounted some protection as they expect some trouble. We have two Synagogues in this town and most people have no idea where they are but could tell you where the churches are . That includes non-Christians knowing . Synagogues keep a low profile because in this day and age there is still a lot of anti-Semitism during more peaceful times. Whereas now is a frightening time for Jews because of these councils like Glasgow City.
I'm all for aid to those people injured in Gaza, like I do for those in Syria and I hope the Christians in Iraq are safe now the Americans are stepping in. To support a group that had Yasser Arafat at its head. The man who brokered the shooting of the Israeli Team in the Munich Games. The group that advised its people to dance in the streets and fire off guns with joy at 9/11 .
To fly Palestinian flags is showing your support of mass murderers .

That is exactly what it is thatbags, and fearful as they were, Sadam and Gadhafi did keep the lid on tribalism, and dare I say it Assad too. I think the Kurds are the only ones to gain (which is brilliant) but most other people are definitely far worse off with these medieval monsters on the loose.

Impossible task is why. Blame tribalism rather than TB.

What does a Middle East Peace Envoy do exactly?

Whatever it is TB ain't doin' it.

ANN don"t be talking to me at least, about that dickhead person he is the PITTS.

Where's Tony Blair in all this? Is he still the middle east envoy?

Shouldn't we be careful about referring to 'Asian' Muslims, the majority of whom live in Indonesia and the Philippines? We know what is intended, but.......

I hadn't heard about the other councils but if that is true the slippery slope I mentioned appears to be more of a concern than I initially thought.

I would find the flag of ISIS being flown over my council office, or indeed anywhere in the UK a downright bloody cheek and it's nothing short of a certain group of people throwing down the gauntlet to the people of the UK. That's exactly what they want though isn't it and some fools will say 'It's their human right'. Not in my book it isn't.

The propaganda war is well on it's way to stir the s--t and it the effect is not something I can say I am pleased to be witnessing. It certainly has echoes of the past.

You will find that almost every town/city council run by Asian Muslims [or mainly run] will naturally be behind the Palestinians and will like to try and fly the ISIS or Palestinian [or other flag.]It's up to central government to stop them.Local council is supposed to reflect the wishes of the people [and perhaps in some areas people here are behind ISIS or similar ghastly groups.]However, should they be allowed to show these flags? It's a point of law I suppose.I have no idea what is legal, I suspect an individual can fly any flag but can a local council? perhaps someone on here can tell us.

Tower Hamlets has been doing the same, and George Galloway has declared Bradford an Israeli free zone!!! Somewhere else (Wolverhampton?) is flying the black flag of Isis, and threatening anyone who dares to try to remonstrate with them - I think we need to be very focused as a nation as this sort of thing can spread and take over while the rest of us are sleepwalking.

I'm horrified if the news about Glasgow City Council flying the Palestinian flag tomorrow is true. Did they fly a similar type of flag when they heard about the 6 million Jews who died in WW2 ? Bet they didn't. Hopefully sense will prevail. Also how about the Christians in Iraq who are in danger of genocide ? At the hands of people who would support Hamas .

Thanks AKA Although I forgot to reply to the post; The Tricycle has a right to accept/deny funding as it likes, as are other groups.

Perhaps 'Tricycle' APPROVES of other governments/groups actions, perhaps they think that terrorising and murdering populations is the right and proper way to behave if those populations don't tow the particular religious line - provided it's not Jews doing it, then of course the moral high ground is immediately occupied, and lets face it... well, I won't go on as it would be too offensive, but I expect you get my drift! Double standards are alive and well, but then they always were!!!!!!

I might be on the wrong thread but I am of the opinion the action being taken by the Glasgow Council to fly the Palestinian Flag tomorrow is going to further the anti Jewish bile that has been evident and I feel very sorry for the Jewish community who are part, or thought they were, of Glasgow's society. A very slippery slope in my opinion.

I am saddened to see that Hamas has fired rockets into Israel after the ceasefire deadline.

The situation in Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Syria, Libya, etc., is irrelevant. This is about the Palestinians, who have received scant support from anyone.

Are the Palestinians supposed to return to their ruined homes, their bombed hospitals and schools, their smashed power plant and roads, their maimed and dead families, and continue as before - still hemmed in on all sides, still subject to a blockade on all the things needed to live a reasonable life?

If they have nothing to live for, they may choose to continue with their desperate but ineffectual targeting of Israel. Perhaps that is what Israel wants in order to justify the obliteration of a people that has paid in land and blood for a historical atrocity for which they weren't responsible.

Thanks, bags for raising this issue. I had read the article but didn't post because i thought I'd said enough on the question of Gaza. Can I draw people's attention to the thread on Iraq and also to the news from Syria?

Re 'distraction', a further point which is noticeable : I put this in a separate thread from the Gaza one.

It's not a distraction. It's an issue to discuss.

Even if what The Tricycle has done is not anti-semitic, pen, if it is justified, why doesn't Tricycle apply the same principle to other funding from other governments of whose actions they disapprove?

Or, as Cohen put it: "Would you force anyone else to behave like this?"

They didn't / wouldn't answer that question.

This issue needn't 'distract' anyone from the Israel/Gaza conflict and more than any other piece of news does. It's our own choice whether to be distracted, as always.

I suppose the dreadful situation in Iraq is a 'distraction' too?.... thought not.

I'm beginning to feel some people cannot separate (entirely natural) emotions from logical points and that's why they don't see the logic.

Well put Roses

The Palestinian people voted in HAMAS because they thought that being 'stronger' they would be able to bargain with Israel for a better deal.
Only they will know in the end if it was worth it.Although Western governments have sympathy for the Palestinian people, they have had a bellyful of Islamist hard-liners, both in the US and here.
I feel so sorry for the people that HAMAS are hiding behind, however a lot of the people there are behind HAMAS all the way.Children, as usual the world over are caught in the crossfire and have no choices at all.Israel has a right to live peacefully, but has more or less made this situation by penning the people into Gaza and treating them like dirt.

Also please can we stop lumping the different 'middle eastern' wars into one and using their actions to justify the Israeli Governments actions against Gaza.

I know there are awful and terrible things happening as a result of different factions fighting for power in the name of their particular brand of Islam and I am no fan of extremism/misogyny/ racism but the Palestinian people are browbeaten and subjugated. They deserve a proper voice and a homeland as much as any Jew.

The Tricycle issue is another bloody distraction! I personally believe that boycotts are a legitimate way to protest and to put pressure on governments/policies. I also understand how hard it is for the actors/musicians/artists/sports folk etc who get caught up in it all. The funding from the Israeli Embassy ( representing Israel) was the issue and i believe the Tricycle tried to overcome that. I am sure the Tricycle is not anti-Semetic. I have been there loads of times to see various 'political' plays and it is a very 'socialist' sort of place.

'People' of all nationalities, colour or crede just want to to live their lives in peace and harmony so what it is that makes our fellow human beings behave so appallingly to each other is beyond me. Of course there should be a Palestinian Sate living in peace alongside whatever state happens to be there, and there could be but for these wretched fanatics who are determined to impose their particular form of life style on others, killing, beating and behaving so horribly to those who don't comply. How on earth could any responsible government expose their citizens to so much danger by putting weapons of war in peoples homes, schools, hospitals, kindergartens? Surely it is the duty of every government to protect and shield their citizens, and if you must antagonise your much more powerful neighbour beyond endurance, it might be a good idea to provide some proper shelters to protect your citizens (the tunnels?) when the inevitable backlash occurs.

No-one has said that it is anti-Jewish "to be horrified at the wholesale bombing being inflicted over Gaza".

What Cohen said is that it's anti-Semitic for a theatre in England to pick on an Anglo-Jewish film charity (*and no others!*) and to make political demands.

Stephen Pollard thinks so too. I agree.

And that isn't saying I'm anti-Palestinian or anti-Gaza.