2nd American hostage beheaded.

Appalling!

It is unspeakable.

It just doesn't bear thinking about. ..your right utterly barbaric

Not just shocking and grotesque but pointless and stupid as well.

I hope, one day, perhaps when they are older and wiser, these immature, godless barbarians will suffer a crisis of conscience.

Where is it all going to end? The world is going to pot. So frightening. How can people like this be dealt with?

What is it going to be like for coming generations?

Heaven only knows how these appalling monsters can be dealt with, as anything we do do will be met with this grotesque response, not to mention the ghastly fate of the men, women and children murdered and kidnapped by these ogres. Not to do anything will just result in them rampaging through northern Iraq and probably further, causing unbelievable suffering for all who come into their path. I think on balance, like Hitler, they have to be stopped whatever the consequences; Awful though it is, I simply can't see any other way of ridding the world of these dreadful creatures.

News, particularly on the BBC, whilst reporting every act of savagery these traitors commit, will also play their propaganda films over and over thus giving them masses of airtime to put forward their anti Western finger jabbing rants, which could possibly sway some of those who are susceptible to their vile cause. I know everything can be accessed on the internet, but I do ask why we have to see the same old bits of film over and over. We are all well aware of their raison d'etre and their spurious reasons for their acts of savagery. I for one don't want to keeping seeing or hearing how they've gone to support their "bruvvers" and somehow have the high moral ground in beheading , crucifying and stoning anyone who gets in their way.
They get way too much airtime and that is presented in such a way as they are some unstoppable force who are gaining momentum daily.

Appalling, disgusting behaviour.

Jingle raises a good question "how can people like this be dealt with". My initial response is to send in specialist troops to wipe out the leaders, but would that lead to an increase in support for IS in some quarters. Anything the US does will be seen as an attack on Islam.

TerriB - are you suggested censorship? They do get a lot of airtime, but what good would censorship do. The fact is, they are beginning to look like an 'unstoppable force who are gaining momentum daily".

So folks, what should the UN do? Where do the Russians and Chinese stand on IS. I'm off to google and become better informed.

It is barbaric though beheadings were the preferred means of execution in this country to for members of the nobility. Woman too were beheaded, Anne Bolyn at 29, Lady Jane Grey at 17, The last female execution by beheading was that of 67 year old Lady Alice Lisle in 1685.
Saudi Arabia still carries out public beheadings.
Man's inhumanity to man

The Australians are ready to send troops. Obama needs to come out and say what this plan of his is. Cameron is in one of those meetings (COBRA?)

Whatever, there will be recerpussions for us. Probably a terrorist attack in this country. And, of course, more young soldiers will die.

But they can't just be allowed to go with this can they?

If we go into Iraq it will have to be with the rest of Europe. Syria is another story. How can that be dealt with? I wonder what Assam proposes to do about the IS.

repercussions

The fatwa pronounced on the jihadis by British imams is at least a start, because these evil men (and some women) give Islam a bad name. If only leaders of Islamic groups worldwide would follow their example.

Latest:

"09.37 The Cobra meeting in London has now finished. Philip Hammond is now speaking to media, and has said there is no change to Britain's overall strategy with regards to Isil following the killing of Steven Sotloff and threat to a British hostage.

He has also confirmed the Telegraph's story last night that the unsuccesful attempt by US forces to free James Foley had also been intended - but failed - to free the British hostage who was threatened on the Sotloff beheading video"

Oh, that poor man. Perhaps our Special Services will have a go at rescuing him.

Wouldn't that be something, if the SAS or similar could get in there, and rescue these hostages.

Iam64 in response to your previous post, I am not suggesting censorship at all, merely pointing out that a lot of Jihadist made propaganda showing young British citizens and are aired continually when ISIS are in the news.

I can't help feeling that with some it's less about the ideology and more about a show of machismo, after all here's a chance for them to strut about playing "The Big I Am" and I am sure that these people are more than aware that their footage is constantly being beamed into our homes.

The awful footage of the executioner standing over the American journalists about to meet their death shows a complete "nobody" about to execute a "somebody".

Cowards!

I would like more airtime to be give to people such as Ghaffar Hussain and the Imam of Oxford Dr Taj Hargey who both present excellent counter arguments to radicalisation.

Why is beheading so much worse than hanging or the execution by lethal injection carried out in America? I would think the death comes far more quickly than by hanging or lethal injection , all executions are barbaric

I think it probably really futile for the west to try and have meaningful negotiations with this group of extremists. I also doubt if they would even listen to moderate imams.

We in Britain do need to have the humility to remember that here in Tudor and Stuart times the British Protestants and Catholics took "turns" in torturing and burning and beheading each other (depending on which monarch was in power) just because of religious rivalry.

Negotiations are futile and military action is too risky and will induce more of these retaliation atrocities, or at worst a world war. So....they have got us over a barrel. and they know it.

I would think that having your throat sliced with a (hopefully) sharp knife, with a view to having your head hacked off with the same (hopefully) sharp knife would be totally terrifying. Any form of execution is gruesome, but this must be the worst. You can't equate the attitudes of the Tudor and Stuart times with the modern world, it was 500 years ago and attitudes all over the world then were totally different compared to our attitudes today All European societies and beyond, were by today's standards very intolerant, cruel and barbaric, Britain was no different to anyone else in this period, so no humility needed here.

Have I been influenced by too many historical films into believing beheading during Tudor and Stuart times was done by a large man, using a very sharp axe - which meant death was quick, as the head came off in one go.

My impression of IS is the beheadings are done using a small knife. Maybe that's wrong, and it's done more quickly - whatever the method, beheading is medieval. I agree with Anniebach that all executions are barbaric. It bothers me that the UK is allied with the US, where executions still take place. So, I don't defend the US, other than to say there will have been a public trial before the death sentence is ordered. Those journalists haven't committed any crime, there has been no trial of any kind.

Theoretically yes it was a sharp axe that cut off the victims head in a stroke, but in reality a lot of executions were bungled and took two or more strokes to actually remove the head from the body, Mary Queen of Scots, James Duke of Monmouth, Thomas Cromwell and Margaret Pole to name just few, that is why (mercifully!) Henry V111th had a swordsman from France to execute Ann Boleyn, as a sword was much sharper and it was easier to execute with one stroke.

This thread is now getting ridiculous!

Feed on the gory details why don't you?

It is obvious that these people monsters are both socially and emotionally backward. They seem to have no feelings, compassion or morals. What puzzles me (I'm sorry if this comes across as naive) is do these people actually have feelings like normal people at all? Were they loved as children? Do they love their mothers?

I can't even begin to imagine the fear that went through these poor journalists. I can't imagine how their poor families must feel constantly replaying events in their minds.

As to what to do with them. I am at a total loss.