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"I've never seen anything like it!"

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TerriBull Thu 20-Nov-14 18:53:00

It appears that Labour MP Emily Thornberry has made a major faux pas in posting the above comment on Twitter in relation to a photograph she had taken whilst campaigning in Rochester of a resident's house showing a white van parked on a drive and the window at the front of the house draped with two St George flags.

Does Barrister, Ms Thornberry, who lives in a 2 - 3 million house in Islington and educates her children privately, exemplify the sneering political elite that the electorate are so fed up with?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 21-Nov-14 12:49:57

I don't think this woman would have commented if it had been one flag, neatly displayed. It was the overall impression she was remarking on. Still patronising and sneery though.

Her other tweets from the doorsteps were in a similar vein. Silly woman.

POGS Fri 21-Nov-14 12:40:16

I'm not 'getting at' any poster I am raising a point when I say:-

It's precisely the fact that we, the English, cannot fly the flag of our nation without it becoming a political football and deemed as supporting the BNP or having far right views.

That is precisely why the the likes of UKIP are doing so well.

People are fed up and the stupidid, ex, Shadow Attorney General Emily Thornberry has just proved the point the Labour elite, as Miliband would say, 'just don't get it'. She even dug herself into a bigger hole by saying 'never seen anything like it'. Good grief woman you don't get out much and most certainly do not reflect a lot of your voters.

I've never heard anybody criticise the flying of the Saltire or the Welsh Dragon. Why ?. Because only the English are kicked into touch for daring to be proud of their country. Hypocrisy. B----y hell we have even had a thread talking about Labour councils flying the Palestinian Flag but fly the English National Flag and all hell breaks loose.

janerowena Fri 21-Nov-14 12:03:45

Maybe it's because they are taught to debate in private schools, so heckling and answering questions under fire come more easily. It could also be the reason why private schools are so hot on carrying on the traditions of having a debating society, believing that they are training up the next generation of politicians.

soontobe Fri 21-Nov-14 11:50:26

oh heck. It is hard to beat that then. I guessed they had confidence, but not the ruthlessness and um the lacking in emotional intelligence.

While some of us merely moan, others are out and about actually doing things so they are going to get through.

Perhaps those in local constiuencies only have those sorts of people put themselves forward.
Oh dear.

annodomini Fri 21-Nov-14 11:37:35

I've known a few MPs before and after they were selected and elected. They came over as fairly ordinary - some of them were also quite intelligent! - but most of them shared one characteristic - ambition, even ruthlessness. These were the ones who succeeded. Although, as I say, some of them were intelligent, what many them lacked - both male and female - was emotional intelligence.

soontobe Fri 21-Nov-14 11:06:17

I had a look at how many mps are privately educated. It is 33%. tbh, that is actually less than I thought.
I couldnt be bothered to find out the breakdown figures for each party.

I wonder what it is like in the local constituency Headquarters where they become the prospective candidates?

Are they able to talk the talk better than the pother candidates?
Are the people who elect them, overawed by them?
Do they just look at cvs, and think, by definition, they are better?

Anyone know at all?

If so many of them didnt get past the first hurdle, they could not become mps in the first place.

I am not saying that all should be stopped, but something is massively out of sync.

Galen Fri 21-Nov-14 10:44:54

When I see the English flag flying at my neighbours, I know it's either the Dutch twinning or Liam Fox is coming to tea again.

TerriBull Fri 21-Nov-14 10:44:01

It's hard to believe that he wouldn't have known a that a by election was going on, I gather they have been inundated with party activists and MPs from the two major parties as well as UKIP in that part of Kent.

Aside from the tone of Emily Thornberry's crass tweet, I think she could have also given some consideration to the fact that she has breached this man/family's privacy. I think it's irresponsible to post pictures of an individual's home showing his van with registration number all over the social media without permission, after all he hasn't broken any laws. He has now been propelled into the spotlight whether he likes it or not.

GillT57 Fri 21-Nov-14 10:41:54

I am with you on that anniebach my heart sinks when I see the flag of St George flying and associate it with BNP and EDF.

Anniebach Fri 21-Nov-14 10:41:48

Most strange Riverwalk, perhaps all the canvassers in his area failed to knock his door or post him a flyer

Riverwalk Fri 21-Nov-14 10:23:28

The chap who had the three flags flying claims not to have known that there was a by-election going on.

I have to be honest and say that I wouldn't buy the house next door!

gillybob Fri 21-Nov-14 10:17:11

The problem with "us" English is that we are not patriotic unlike our friends over the border. Why should the England flag mean racism (it certainly doesn't to me) although must admit whenever I see the flag flying, I tend to think there must be an international football match on the horizon.

Anniebach Fri 21-Nov-14 10:00:21

It is such a shame the England flag has become a symbol of racism to many, wrong I know but when I see the flag I think BNP and not England

ninathenana Fri 21-Nov-14 09:53:32

If anyone who thinks it's objectionable to hang the flag of St. George on their house would be gob smacked to take a tour of my town when there is a major England sports event.

Now parking a white van on your drive............that's a different matter !!

grin

Riverwalk Fri 21-Nov-14 08:58:55

British politics has become so complicated!

It used to be easy .... Left, Right and Liberals for those who wavered.

Now we have an Islington Labour MP sneering at an obviously working-class, home-owner with a white van and tattoos; then this morning Mark Reckless formerly right-wing Tory saying his new party is the natural home for the working man and woman.

And the LibDems polled 300 votes grin

Something's going on!

Iam64 Fri 21-Nov-14 08:33:53

The repeated suggestions that this thread would run and run if the comments had been made by a Tory are just the kind of thing to put a stop to left leaners, like myself, coming in to criticise this stupid woman.

How dare she photograph someone's house and post it on twitter, with the aim of humiliating the family who live there. Other nations manage to celebrate their national flags without those flying them being accused of racism.

People who live in mansions should pay tax on them grin

gillybob Fri 21-Nov-14 08:24:57

Courageous and honorable my arse bum. She said what she thought didn't she? I agree with Ana's earlier post if this had been a Tory comment we would never hear the last of it. They are all the same made you. They live in their multi million pound houses about as close to reality as the man in the bloomin' moon and think that we're all stupid.

Ana Thu 20-Nov-14 22:47:53

Oh dear! Now they'll be saying what a courageous and honourable thing it was to resign...

TerriBull Thu 20-Nov-14 22:38:34

Possibly hanged.

TerriBull Thu 20-Nov-14 22:31:26

Hung by her own hubris! That must be one of the quickest resignations ever after a questionable comment.

24 hours is indeed a long time in politics!

POGS Thu 20-Nov-14 22:23:51

EMILY THORNBERRY HAS JUST RESIGNED!

Over and out.

POGS Thu 20-Nov-14 22:23:01

Paula Sheriff Labour's candidate for Dewsbury and Mirfield if I'm not mistaken?

The problem is if Ed Miliband, Labour, Conservatives etc. etc. can't take criticism they shouldn't go on such shows as the Agenda or Question Time etc.

TerriBull Thu 20-Nov-14 22:11:43

Hey POGS don't forget the female Labour MP, her name escapes me who suggested that Myleene Klass might wish to emigrate following her spat regarding Labour's proposed mansion tax, I believe the same was also suggested to Sol Campbell and Bonnie Greer used the stronger "piss off!" to Griff Rhys Jones.

POGS Thu 20-Nov-14 22:03:32

Sounds about right for Emily Thornberry, quite pleased she is on the receiving end for once instead of dishing it out.

She is one I've mentioned in the past and I find her patronising during interviews and has been a source of bewilderment to me as I have heard her repeatedly say she was raised by a single parent in a council house and knows what it's like to be poor. Maybe but her mother was a teacher, her father a professor at Kings College who went on to become a United Nations Assistant Secretary General, or am I incorrect?. I accept they were divorced and perhaps it could of course be true.

Mind you her stupidity doesn't compare with Ken Livingstones latest vile rant does it. He has been recorded at a meeting basically telling people to physically go to peoples homes and make their life hell, just because they have been sent in to monitor a Labour Council. Nice one Mr. Livingstone you piece of work.

Oh yes and then there was Labour MP John McDonnell who said Tory MP Esther McVey should be lynched.

And they call the Conservatives the Nasty Party.

As you say Ana she's not a conservative MP just like the others. I think the press would have had a field day with these other cases but the likes of the BBC leave it just the Daily Politics Show.

janerowena Thu 20-Nov-14 21:28:00

It's so sad that our flag has come to be a symbol of racism. My heart does sink when I see flags displayed like that. I expect hers did too. If she has managed to escape it so far, then she is lucky. I had to listen to my boiler repair man ranting on for almost two hours this afternoon about 'foreigners' charging less per hour than he did. I almost asked for their number.