Ashamed to be human

I don"t feel in the least bit ashamed of being human.

Speak for yourself, dj, re judging others.

I don't think anyone is judging the people, Durhamjen. It's the quasi-religious practice that is being judged.

So why are we all making judgments about the people in Nepal. I assume none of us is there.

Tegan I remember that PETA video of the dogs being skinned alive. I still feel sick when I think about it. Like jingl says, there really isn't much most of us can do, beyond endless petition signing, about these horrible things happening on the other side of the world.
I wondered about the driver of the car too. A friend's daughter had a deer jump out onto the front of her car. Smashed the windscreen, did a lot of damage to the car and of course to the deer too. Driver very upset and shocked. I wonder if there are rules about circumstances when policemen can fire their guns? Always hard to make judgments when you weren't there.

Petallus You might find this article by Dr Briffa of interest.
www.drbriffa.com/2007/09/03/study-links-blood-sugar-imbalance-with-increased-appetite/

Basically he is saying that the reason that eating high GI carbohydrates like white bread and refined sugars makes people gain more weight than eating the equivalent number of calories from protein and/or fat, is that the carbohydrates stimulate the appetite, so you want more.
I don't think anyone advocates cutting out carbs completely - just trying to restrict them to the complex carbohydrates found in vegetables and whole grains.

Bullfighting seems worse than the goings-on in Nepal .... it's done for fun!

I didn't realise until recently that the bull always gets killed, even if he wins the fight, still gets put down.

I was wondering if the driver of the car that hit the deer was injured [I'd be surprised if they weren't, given that the impact must have been great] which meant the police had quite a major incident on their hands.

Ah! I was thinking of a bullring in Barcelona, which is now something else. Yes, only actually banned in Catalonia. Numbers falling apparently (thank goodness)

jings bullfighting is still a very popular 'sport' in Spain

And the thing about the deer certainly isn't worth worrying about. Isolated incident.

I am not ashamed to be part of the human race. Too many good things being done by good people in a very sad and unfortunate world.

If weidos on the other side of the world think they have a need to do horrible things to animals, there is probably not much we in the West can do about it. Be glad they stopped bull-fighting in Spain. No point in making yourself miserable about this. No way we can change it.

...I'm not, by the way saying that this article was sensationalised; the pictures speak for themselves. I do question PETA in some ways; I was told once that their long term aim would be for people to not even have animals as pets as that is regarded as exploitation but I don't know if that is the case. I was once sent a PETA video about raccoon dogs being skinned alive for their fur. Much as the practice is abhorrent to me I was also angry with the sender of the email for subjecting me to something that has stayed in my mind ever since. Someone sent the same video to my daughter recently and she was very upset by it. And, as I've said before the RSPCA are an organisation with a lot of money that puts down healthy animals so I question their ethics sometimes as well.

Newspapers sensationalise articles that they write; I know that having seen the sort of headlines that they use when I've wanted to pass information on and have contacted them with a view to having a story publicised . They want a storyline to be as sensational as possible and will look for that angle; some newspapers more than others.

durhamjen I realise that. TBH I am always suspicious of DM articles too, especially the online versions, they are often hyped up. The thread has gone all over the place so I'm not sure quite what you mean by your comment?

Good post.

Not that I think the buffalo slaughter is evil. I agree with everyone else who thinks it would be better not done, but such practices are based on very old ideas and traditions so I don't think petitions to stop it are the way to go (nothing against anyone else petitioning if that's what they want to do). With good, well-rounded universal (i.e. for girls as well as boys) education/schooling these old and now unnecessary practices tend to die out.

Mind you, if the meat is eaten and the people killing the buffalo do not have sophisticated tools with which to do the job, I wouldn't even call it an unnecessary practice. Obviously it would be better if the animals were slaughtered humanely, but that may not have been an available option. Let's hope it becomes so as soon as possible.

I don't feel ashamed to be human in the context of the OP, nor in any context. I feel sad that some human beings do cruel things, but I am aware that evil exists and all we can do is our best to reduce it. This does not make me ashamed. Why would it? Life, human or otherwise, is not simply good or bad.

By the way, annie, the whole of this thread is as a result of the DM article that nightowl put up in the OP.

So where should we get our information from if not local radio and newspapers, annie? A police report is not going to be available to the general public, is it?

Iam64 I don't feel ashamed of being human in the context of the OP, that is because of cruelty to animals.

I sometimes feel ashamed for other reasons, though not of being human.

On the hunting front, I was out walking in the countryside in Berkshire in October with a friend when a hunt appeared in full regalia with dozens of followers in cars. We were high up in an area with clumps of woodland around. The horsemen circled one of these small woods and the hounds were crashing about in the wood with lots of accompanying toots from the horsemen on their bloomin' horn. This went on for some time, I do not think they were following a scent laid trail!!

My friend who is a country side dweller doesn't think for a moment that the hunts obey the ban, they just hide what they are doing and the police really don't care. I think the ban will be repealed once the general election has come and gone.

I find it hard to comment on stories like the one about the deer. I feel I don't know enough, that newspapers especially local ones often misreport or sensationalize. At least it looks like it's being dealt with.

Thanks janeainsworth. Do you mean that if people cut out carbs and ate loads of other stuff they wouldn't get fat?

Although some foods are more likely to increase weight than others, total calorie intake also has a part to play.

Anyway, What I meant is that people eat too much generally (not just meat. In terms of health, quite often now there are warnings against eating too much meat, particularly of the red variety.

Up to date story about the police officers.

www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11634868.Police_officers_accused_of_bludgeoning_deer_to_death_with_crowbars_face_gross_misconduct_hearing___but_no_criminal_charges/

I think they should face criminal charges. I would also like to know what happened to the photos, but I do not suppose we ever will.

Petallus Obesity is due to people eating too much carbohydrate, in particular refined sugars, not to eating too much meat.