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What would you like to see cut?

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whitewave Thu 04-Dec-14 10:12:50

Well according to the OBR government spend per person will have to drop from £3000 per person - current spend - to £1300 per person in order to meet the governments plans for the next few years.

Bearing in mind the cuts that have taken place already in order to get it to £3000 what would other GN's like to see cut in order to meet the target of more than 50% more cuts?

Of course you don't have to accept these parameters and could suggest other ways of cutting the debt.

annodomini Mon 08-Dec-14 09:52:47

The majority of immigrants do not rely on benefits but actually work and pay tax, thus contributing to our economy.

Nelliemoser Mon 08-Dec-14 09:25:01

Magpie what level of benefits do migrants get? Do you mean legal or illegal migrants?
https://fullfact.org/live/2014/sep/illegal_immigrants_access_to_benefits-34842

Nelliemoser Mon 08-Dec-14 09:19:56

Eloethan Very good points you have made there.

magpie123 Mon 08-Dec-14 08:58:02

I would like to see cut

Overseas Aid

Child benefit for children who do not live with their parents in UK

Benefits for migrants

Cosmetic surgery on the NHS

durhamjen Sun 07-Dec-14 18:46:43

They would go, wouldn't they? Never noticed the Express trying to interview the MP, Jeremy Hunt.

rosequartz Sun 07-Dec-14 18:32:54

angry

rosequartz Sun 07-Dec-14 18:32:30

And NHS chiefs too.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/484199/NHS-Staff-USA-US-Money-Taxpayer (just the tip of the iceberg)

rosequartz Sun 07-Dec-14 18:31:03

Bureaucracy, waste and over-indulgent expenses.

Councillors/MPs going on overseas 'jollies' to find out something the rest of us find out by telephone/google.

durhamjen Sun 07-Dec-14 18:21:10

This is interesting.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2014/12/01/85-of-british-adults-say-tax-avoidance-by-large-companies-is-morally-wrong/

Even 90% of tory voters think it is morally wrong for large companies to avoid tax.
Shame their masters do not take any notice of them.

soontobe Sun 07-Dec-14 17:52:08

It is a clever way of putting it, and a bit eye opening, but not really the point?
If you were a Chancellor of the Exchequer, a % is not going to help balance the books. Or pay for roads and education etc.

He or she needs higher earners for that.

soontobe Sun 07-Dec-14 17:49:30

I suppose you are talking about more as a % of income.

Not more as in £10k versus £2k or whatever.

soontobe Sun 07-Dec-14 17:48:12

I scored 5 out of 8.

I need time to digest what you and the link say.

Either I am adrift, or there is something else adrfit.

Eloethan Sun 07-Dec-14 17:23:28

durhamjen I suppose the Green Party has the policies with which I agree the most. However, I think the party that has the most chance of getting rid of this horrible government is Labour (possibly with the support of the Green Party, SNP and Plaid Cymru). I'm very reluctant to vote Labour though so I'm not quite sure what to do.

soontobe It's not so much about putting top rate income tax up, but about the Conservative party saying that their aim is to bring the top rate down, in the first instance to 40% but possibly even more in due course. There are certainly plenty of Conservatives who believe in lowering income tax rates and even having a "flat" income tax rate.

Recent research conducted by the think tank Equality Trust found that people believe that the richest pay the most taxes relative to their income. In fact, the poorest 10% pay 8% more of their income than the richest - 43% compared to 35%.

The poorest pay roughly 23% of their gross household income in indirect taxes (such as VAT) and more than four times as much of their income in Council Tax as the top 10%.

www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jun/16/british-public-wrong-rich-poor-tax-research

soontobe Sun 07-Dec-14 07:41:05

Oh dear. I didnt write clear enough again.
When I said "tax problems at the top", I meant businesses and institutions not paying tax properly, like top hotels and international coffee shops and internet businesses, who dont pay tax into this country. Did Labour try and do anything about that? I cant remember now.

I am not in agreement however with putting the top rate of tax up further for individuals.

I will click on the RM link later.

durhamjen Sat 06-Dec-14 23:37:08

The government has found something else to cut. Does anyone else find this worrying?

www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/12/05/too-little-too-late-electoral-commission-denies-complacency

durhamjen Sat 06-Dec-14 23:32:05

By the way, I agree with everything you said in your last post, Eloethan, apart from the fact that I do think the A1 should be dualled all the way up to Berwick. Leaving it as it is is dangerous. They could have actually done that instead of widening the A1 through Newcastle.

Sorry if agreeing with you reduces your chances of becoming PM.

durhamjen Sat 06-Dec-14 23:23:04

Which party would you stand for, Eloethan? Or would you start your own?
It would be interesting to see how many rightwingers on here would vote for your party.

durhamjen Sat 06-Dec-14 23:21:24

Yes they did, soontobe, by putting the top rate of tax up. However, Osborne put it down again straight away.

Iam64 Sat 06-Dec-14 18:09:42

Another excellent post from Eloethan! Definitely E, you should stand for parliament and become PM within 6 months!

durhamjen Fri 05-Dec-14 23:32:13

Soontobe, this is who Richard Murphy is. You probably will not want to read all of the link.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/richard-murphy/

durhamjen Fri 05-Dec-14 23:28:41

Osborne has criticised the BBC for reporting what he said accurately.

www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2014/12/05/osborne-is-attacking-the-bbc-for-accurately-reporting-what-h

rosequartz Fri 05-Dec-14 20:36:39

It has happened down the centuries hasnt it. People migrating to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the Far East.&

I think they will find they do not have such a cushion to land on there as they do here!

Ana Fri 05-Dec-14 20:13:21

Eloethan for PM!

Eloethan Fri 05-Dec-14 19:29:28

Cancel Trident and reduce military budget;

Stop involving ourselves in wars;

Cancel HS2 - improve efficiency of current lines;

Stop funding "vanity" projects like the Garden Bridge which is estimated to be likely to incur annual maintenance costs of £3 million);

Cancel new road building projects (more roads have been found to create more traffic);

Abolish House of Lords, subsidised food/drink in Houses of Parliament, lavish catered events;

Pare down numbers of Royal Family supported by the state and reduce allowances;

Reduce food waste in schools (the education sector produce 13% of non-domestic food waste - most of which goes into landfill);

Abolish the discounts given under "Right to Buy";

Stop subsidising private schools through tax relief;

Stop using agency nurses and locum doctors;

Stop paying private companies to assist in bringing down unemployment - they have been largely unsuccessful;

Stop privatisation of public services, which will in due course result in higher costs for the population;

Monitor charities properly to ensure they are genuine charities and therefore entitled to tax relief;

Return schools to local authority control where spending can be monitored more closely to prevent fraud.

soontobe Fri 05-Dec-14 11:18:25

When Labour were in power, did they try and tackle the tax problems at the top?
I dont recall that they did. If not, why not?