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UKIP - no more Twitter "blunders"

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Eloethan Mon 22-Dec-14 01:26:53

Nigel Farage has apparently told his people not to use Twitter to express their views.

This follows several embarrassing tweets including remarks about "poofters", "chinkies", "peasants", etc. He might also be advised to tell them not to put in writing anywhere such questions as "should the unemployed be allowed to vote?" "should the rich be entitled to more than one vote?" or comments such as "Lenny Henry should go and live in a black country", etc. etc. etc.

The trouble is, if these views are suppressed, how will people know that the real UKIP may not be quite as benign and fair-minded as it purports to be?

absent Mon 22-Dec-14 05:38:41

Wow! Are those from real tweets? How could anyone be so crass?

vampirequeen Mon 22-Dec-14 08:29:20

They won't be able to contain themselves. This is how they think and talk so their views will still come out. The only way they'll be able to hide this is to follow the actions of the BNP. They let only chosen people canvas my aunt's estate. These men wore suits and spoke in normal voices. They said the things that most people were thinking such as pensions need to be improved, we need more low cost/social housing and more jobs. My aunt was taken in until my mother pointed out that they were fascists just like the Nazis.

durhamjen Mon 22-Dec-14 09:07:52

They are not saying what this councillor said, so it must be even worse.

Eloethan Mon 22-Dec-14 11:14:49

The Rozanne Duncan remarks are reported in all the papers as being "jaw dropping". However offensive they might be, they should not be concealed from the general public which needs to be fully aware of what some UKIP members' real views are.

The question "Should people on benefits be allowed to vote?" was posed by Tom Bursnall, a former chair of the Young Conservatives but now a UKIP councillor, in his Pro Capitalist blog.

Also worrying is what could be seen as an attempt to close down criticism of UKIP. Police officers went to speak to a member of the Green Party who had tweeted a parody of a UKIP poster.

vampirequeen Tue 23-Dec-14 08:32:23

Whenever the DM prints something negative/truthful about UKIP the readers comment section is swamped by UKIP supporters attacking the article and the paper.

thatbags Tue 23-Dec-14 08:49:00

I agree with eloethan. Censorship of outrageous views is not helpful to anyone. We need to know what potential or actual politicians and political activists are saying, however shocking what they say may be.

thatbags Tue 23-Dec-14 08:49:40

vamp, that's free speech at work.

thatbags Tue 23-Dec-14 08:50:34

That shouldn't be supressed either, even if one hates what people are saying. The only response is to argue rationally against nonsense and outrageous ideas.

vampirequeen Tue 23-Dec-14 12:47:14

I know. I didn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to post. I meant to say that it appeared to be a UKIP tactic to swamp the replies section.

Ana Tue 23-Dec-14 12:54:53

I wonder why they aren't swamping the comments section in the Guardian and other newspapers then?

vampirequeen Tue 23-Dec-14 13:52:26

It is that Guardian readers are a little less gung-ho and therefore less likely to support UKIP. If they try to swamp the Guardian there is a risk that other readers will fight back.

Ana Tue 23-Dec-14 14:21:34

Well yes, but you'd think that if it was a tactic they'd try even harder to target left-wing newspapers, although I suppose a lot of UKIP-supporting posts would be removed pretty sharpish!

thatbags Tue 23-Dec-14 15:02:33

The Guardian censors its comments pages. Perhaps that's why.

vampirequeen Tue 23-Dec-14 15:08:14

Ah that might explain it. Or maybe UKIP is targeting DM readers as they think they're more likely to vote for them.

POGS Tue 23-Dec-14 21:41:29

It isn't just a problem for UKIP though is it? There are plenty of others from different parties who make crass, upsetting, stupid remarks too.

I don't agree with your comment on the Daily Mail letters page Vampirequeen. I see it as the Daily Mail being prepared to be taken to task on a regular basis by it's readers, not just over any UKIP comments but on various reports. I think that's a healthy way for a paper to behave to be honest. It isn't expecting everyone to hang on to it's every word and puts into print disagreements with the paper.

If it is only the Daily Mail that prints letters of opposition then perhaps it doesn't happen in 'some' other papers because a). Their readers all agree with everything the paper says confused. b) The paper doesn't print readers letters that oppose their view because it doesn't like to be critisized, slightly narcissistic.

UKIP is naturally getting heightened coverage at the moment because it is doing so well in the polls and gained so many seats in the last European Election. They are now being called the 4th party and I believe will get as many votes from Labour as they will from the Conservatives, time will tell.

If anybody from UKIP makes crass remarks they deserve to be taken to task and that is exactly what has happened. I just can't help but say that other parties suffer from idiots too but they seem to get away with it more, even if they joke about lynching a female MP from an opposition party, urging people to go to the homes of officials and 'Make their lives intollerable', call Yorkshire and Northerners 'backward', and don't get me started on the poor lad who was killed by a polar bear and what was written by The Socialist Worker paper. angry

Fools and idiots don't come from just one party.