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I knew toleration didn't seem right! I meant tolerance. See what youse've all done? Addled my brain! Positively addled it! Hey ho, as the saying goes

Stereotyping Muslims- and some answers. Really worth watching..

youtu.be/PzusSqcotDw

How many shades of grey, thatbags?

(Lowering the tone)

Are you sure you can with impunity, janeA? Do we have the freedom to ?

It's a good thing bags that someone is there to help your feeble intellect to approach subjects about which you are patently ignorant and ill-equipped to understand. You must be so grateful.

Should have added a

My job is done

Is that your mission in life (or on GN then)*Soontobe*?

That done, who's what's next?

I am glad about your last two posts. I think that you have moderated. Good. My job is done.

I have read him quite a bit and never liked him much. He goes on about being Jewish a lot. Anyway, I'm off to read the link now.

PS and my reason for posting the links is that I think it possible some other people on GN will find some or all of the articles interesting too. I'm just disseminating. Of course nobody has to read them. I'd never heard of Jacobson before but from reading that article I now know he is a good writer.

BTW, petallus, he's not writing about his religion in this article.

Interrogationtastic, soon! Not sure what you're on about. Sorry. But I'll say this: when so many brilliant writers have so much to say, and say it so well, on the subject of freedom and what it means to be tolerant and so forth, I'm really enjoying reading their stuff. Of the links I've posted, I think the one by Dan Hodges is my favourite (and it did alter my view of what this is all about, though not drastically; I think he is right that the issue is not really free speech so much as secular toleration), though there is a subtlety in Jacobson's article that I appeals as well.

I don't do black and white when it comes to opinions. More smudgy grey on most subjects. As I think I have intimated more than once (well, certainly once), I have found all the articles I've linked to very interesting and all of them have helped me develop what is my current view of the role of free speech and toleration.

Hope that answers some of your queries.

I don't think preaching at your doorstep is the way they aim to try to change things.

I don't think that normal Muslims would do that anyway.

Oops I will have be very careful about that soutra.
No need to apologise , even you, can make mistakes . None, of us is perfect.

I don't have to read HJ. I can guess what he says.

He is very into his religion.

I've had a few Christians come to my door trying to convert me in my time. Never any Muslims though.

But who knows. I'm no expert.

They are not trying to impose their faith on us
petallus I may have a naive and simplistic view of all this but I think that is the underlying aim in the long-term.

Shouting again Nonu? Sorry if I mixed it up but I do think my meaning was obvious.

Yes Tegan. But we do stop! We dont hold grudges, or have to have the last word, or hold things against each other.
Or feel wounded. Or bury things that were said.

I always thought the expression was ^RATTLE YOUR CAGE, not BARS!!
Titter

Blimey! Who's rattled somebody's bars??

It's in today's Independent Tegan - if you can access that!

Don't you discuss politics and current affairs with your family on a regular basis soon? Annoyingly my computer won't let me onto links these days as I'd like to read the Howard Jacobson one.

I will agree to disagree with you thatbags.