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Are The Greens the new Raving Loony Party!

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magpie123 Sat 24-Jan-15 15:48:57

Greens: Progressively reduce UK immigration controls. Migrants illegally in the UK for over five years will be allowed to remain unless they pose a serious danger to public safety. More legal rights for asylum seekers.

Greens: Referendum on Britain's EU membership. Want reform of EU to hand powers back to local communities. Boost overseas aid to 1% of GDP within 10 years. Scrap Britain's nuclear weapons. Take the UK out of NATO unilaterally. End the so-called "special relationship" between the UK and the US.

Greens: Decriminalise cannabis and axe prison sentences for possession of other drugs. Decriminalise prostitution. Ensure terror suspects have the same legal rights as those accused of more conventional criminal activities.

The party backs a Citizen's Income, a fixed amount to be paid to every individual, whether they are in work or not, to be funded by higher taxes on the better off and green levies.

I think they are.

GrannyAli1 Sun 25-Jan-15 13:10:34

I joined the Green Party this year, having become disillusioned by the LibDems in power, but only through your site have I found out just how in accordance with my politics the Greens are. A revolutionary party which hasn't a snowball's chance and many of its policies will be very difficult to impose, but it's the only party which takes account of our grandkids' longterm future through a no-economic growth policy. Personally, I love everything they propose even if there's no chance of getting the media and their owners' vested interests on side.

JessM Sun 25-Jan-15 13:00:35

that was supposed to be potpourri, sorry.

JessM Sun 25-Jan-15 12:58:41

It's certainly a pot pour.
I wonder where they would draw the line around intensive food production to define "factory farming" Price of bacon and eggs would rocket that's for sure. And can you imagine if everyone had a carte blanche to fill their shopping baskets with "alternatives" at Holland and Barrett and claim from the NHS.
Banning animal testing would bring a halt to the development of new drugs and decimate UK biological/medical sciences. Never mind the scientists can retrain as aroma"therapists" and that will be fine, won't it.
They are aligned with that far left hippy newspaper, The Economist on the decriminalisation of sex and drugs.
The sad thing about it is that they do not seem to have well thought out green policies. All about influencing Europe not what they would do as UK government. All very well banning nuclear but don't explain how they will cover the "base load" of electricity demand on the days when the wind is not blowing and the sun not shining. They wouldn't go for tidal barrages as it would upset the wading birds.
The worrying thing about this is that many young people will waste their vote by voting Green.

Ana Sun 25-Jan-15 12:19:51

Quite so, Anya!

Anya Sun 25-Jan-15 12:07:24

There's a difference in being cynical and deliberately suggesting something is otherwise as Eloethan quite rightly pointed out. That would smack of sophistry.

durhamjen Sun 25-Jan-15 11:45:58

I've just looked through the link I gave from the Green party manifesto and could find nothing about prostitution and sex trafficking on it.
However, I did find a link to a speech given by Jean Lambert, a Green Party MEP deploring sex trafficking in 2008.
It would be nice if we could hold the present government up to what it wrote in 2008 about the NHS and Education, etc.

rosequartz Sun 25-Jan-15 11:25:22

A degree of cynicism is healthy even if you mainly agree with most of the policies of the party they represent.
An important part of democracy I would have thought.
Otherwise one could suspect fear or brainwashing.

rosequartz Sun 25-Jan-15 11:20:05

petra shock
I won't tell my Aussie relatives, mind you they couldn't stand Julia Gillard's nasal tones.

janeainsworth Sun 25-Jan-15 11:14:15

Thank you for clearing that one up Eloethan.
Not sure what's wrong with being cynical about politicians, whatever shade they present.

petra Sun 25-Jan-15 11:13:40

I couldn't vote for the Green Party. It would mean I would have to listen to that awful Australian twang.

rosequartz Sun 25-Jan-15 11:11:38

Budget, budget, budget ?

Anya Sun 25-Jan-15 11:05:20

You forgot to meantime her sense of fun and love of the ridiculous Jane

Mishap Sun 25-Jan-15 10:50:20

Take a look at the NHS and education policies before dismissing them completely.

Eloethan Sun 25-Jan-15 10:40:09

People are trafficked to work in all sorts of industries, and trafficking is illegal. The Greens have never suggested legalising the trafficking of people for any purpose and I think it's a very cynical move to suggest otherwise.

rosequartz Sun 25-Jan-15 10:10:36

The whole population could be blissfully stoned in a haze of cannabis smoke if the Greens get in. No- one will care about any policies - or anything at all.

In fact, the whole country could go to pot. grin

Good try, Greens!

janeainsworth Sun 25-Jan-15 10:01:52

I do admire Absent's intelligence, clear-sightedness and logic, Anya.
Enjoy your housework smile

Anya Sun 25-Jan-15 09:43:43

Anyway I'd better get some work done around the house or I'll be traded in for a Philipino bride.

Anya Sun 25-Jan-15 09:42:46

Are you related to Absent by any chance Jane? wink

OK let's look at this from a different angle. British jobs for British (Sex) Workers. That should cut out the trafficking.

janeainsworth Sun 25-Jan-15 09:34:22

Recipes normally are quite specific as to whether you use the juice or the zest, Anya.

Anya Sun 25-Jan-15 09:14:29

Trafficking is, and always will be, illegal.

Pips are 'part of' some lemons, we don't normally include them in our recipes.

Gracesgran Sun 25-Jan-15 09:05:08

emailed!

Gracesgran Sun 25-Jan-15 09:04:40

I have found out how the Greens are getting such a rise in their "membership" as I received an email welcoming me to my local Green Party and saying I have joined H**** and District. I DID NOT. I email straight back but had heard nothing.

janeainsworth Sun 25-Jan-15 09:03:58

I agree Anya it is, but it did say 'all aspects of the sex industry' and trafficking is a part of that, isn't it?

Anya Sun 25-Jan-15 09:01:29

hmm what a strange idea Jane shock

janeainsworth Sun 25-Jan-15 08:54:09

I was wondering if the Greens intended to decriminalise the trafficking aspect.