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Jeremy Clarkson

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merlotgran Wed 11-Mar-15 13:35:59

Quite rightly he's being suspended but should the BBC be cancelling episodes of Top Gear?

If a man working in a factory punches a colleague he would probably be sacked but I doubt they'd remove the product he was making from the shelves.

petra Thu 19-Mar-15 16:08:13

I could watch Stephen Fry in anything.

vampirequeen Thu 19-Mar-15 15:40:02

Just so wrong in so many ways. I love Top Gear. It's so laddish. Much as I love Stephen Fry he's far too intellectual.

annodomini Thu 19-Mar-15 13:05:49

What a bizarre idea!

merlotgran Thu 19-Mar-15 12:17:07

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3001616/Fry-revs-replace-Clarkson.html

It's not April 1st yet is it? grin

vampirequeen Thu 19-Mar-15 07:29:48

It's brilliant free advertising for Top Gear btw.

thatbags Thu 19-Mar-15 06:51:31

I doubt the petitioons will do any good (or bad).

Another reason to wait and see what the investigation throws up.

Flowerofthewest Wed 18-Mar-15 21:47:32

Nope not an iota

Ana Wed 18-Mar-15 21:43:32

Are any of these petitions really going to make any difference? I doubt it. confused

Flowerofthewest Wed 18-Mar-15 21:38:24

Loopylou, there is a petition not to have him back, have seen it on FB.

vampirequeen Wed 18-Mar-15 19:28:04

Is JC really as bad as the media portray? Yes he says outrageous things. Yes he's not always politically correct. But is this the real JC or is it a persona he takes on for work?

Are we going to crucify a man just because he says things that are a bit OTT?

The real JC is a patron of Help for Heroes. Someone who doesn't care about the environment wouldn't be bothered about the habitat of birds yet he's an avid bird watcher. He has said several times that he's not against protecting the environment he just can't stand environmentalists who are not realistic about the amount of electricity the world needs and the amount that can be generated using wind turbines.

Do people look for the bad in him? Did you know 'slope' was a racist term until he said it about the bridge they built? I certainly didn't. The bridge was tilted at an angle. It sloped to one side. That's what I thought he was talking about. Do you really think he believes you can only get a job at the BBC if you're a black lesbian? The media can't wait to jump on anything he says and tbh if I was him I'd be outrageous too just for the hell of it.

As for the punching incident, we don't know what happened yet. We only know what the media tell us. One thing though...if I'd been working all day out in the cold I'm not sure I'd have been happy with cold cuts. Whoever was responsible for organising the hotel should have phoned to make sure hot food was still available. I bet JC wasn't the only one to be annoyed.

Mishap Wed 18-Mar-15 18:00:51

It's up to the BEEB to decide if they want this chap on board or not; and the victim to decide if he wants to press charges if that is appropriate.

Personally I could live without him - I dislike his attitudes. But he thrives on being outrageous - he has made a career of it. You can only keep that up for so long without something giving out.

He sounds from the reports as if he is a bit near the edge at the moment and a few years out of the limelight might help him.

thatbags Wed 18-Mar-15 15:44:01

rumour now has it... not humour

thatbags Wed 18-Mar-15 15:43:06

A final warning for what though? For saying things that some people think offensive and others regard as outrageous humour but humour nonetheless? He often trod a fine line between free speech and whatever lies next to free speech (offence, I suppose), and he had been made to apologise for various things he'd said, but had he really done anything worthy of a "final warning"? Some would argue he had not and argue that all the 'charges' against him were trumped up nonsense against his non-political correctness.

I've heard other people say things that I find far more offensive than anything he has said.

We still don't know if he hit anyone.

I see that humour now has it he wasn't drunk, hadn't imbibed any alcohol.

He seems completely unconcerned by all the fuss. He is reported to have said he feels "intensely relaxed" about the whole thing.

I'm still waiting for actual facts. As are the rest of you. Judge not lest....

Anniebach Wed 18-Mar-15 14:45:38

Jinglebells, I am not at all emotional about this, nothing to get emotional about. I just question if those who are defending Clarkson would be quite so eager to do so if he had thumped a relative. As for them both being grown men assault is still assault regardless of age, either it's right or wrong, if it's acceptable for Clarkson it is acceptable for all surely

gillybob Wed 18-Mar-15 13:32:51

I was under the impression that food was on offer though merlotgran just not the food that he happened to want (steak). The point I was trying to make was I can't imagine anyone kicking off as he is alleged to have done and been rewarded with his demand for a steak. Asked to leave, more likely.

rosequartz Wed 18-Mar-15 13:23:04

I remember arriving somewhere at 11.00 at night, tired and miserable after a train delay and having had nothing to eat since breakfast, thinking I would get a bag of crisps or a sandwich at the most, but the owner of the pub/restaurant very kindly cooked me a meal.

merlotgran Wed 18-Mar-15 12:49:56

We had a pub and restaurant in the nineties, gillybob and I lost count of the number of times I cooked a meal for a customer after the chef had gone home.

You want people to come back

Although perhaps not in this case grin

gillybob Wed 18-Mar-15 12:33:28

I no longer know who or what to believe. One thing for certain though is the manager of the hotel would not have stood for such behaviour from Joe Public and as for cooking him a steak after the chef had gone home well............................ hmm

loopylou Wed 18-Mar-15 12:28:28

To me it's depressing that he has such an apparent 'hold' over the BBC because of the money the programme brings.
For someone on a final warning the inquiry seems to be taking forever!

rosequartz Wed 18-Mar-15 12:28:02

According to the media (the DM I think hmm ) he had not been drinking at all, Elegran, he had been working on, I think, scripts. His colleague James May had (allegedly) drunk a bottle of wine, but JC had not had anything alcoholic.

I am not excusing anything he is alleged to have done, just pointing out a possibility. Most people would say oh dear, I've missed dinner, I'll have to make do with whatever is on offer (if anything).
Most people are not divas (or divos)

janeainsworth Wed 18-Mar-15 12:10:38

Meanwhile here is another petition
https://www.change.org/p/bbc-hire-alan-partridge-for-top-gear?recruiter=12428744&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-no_src-reason_msg

Elegran Wed 18-Mar-15 12:04:57

Going straight to the hot food, instead of (allegedly) spending three hours in the pub first, would probably have corrected the blood sugar level.

If a docker floors his wife for not having a hot meal instantly on the table when he gets home at an unpredictable hour from the pub, he could be on a charge for assault, particularly if he is on a final warning.

But we have still to hear the whole story.

rosequartz Wed 18-Mar-15 11:26:43

The issue is whether he committed a crime
thatbags I am not sure if that is the issue. The issue is that he was on a final warning and his employer is now considering another incident involving another member of staff which has resulted in his suspension. Whether it was a crime or not is beside the point - it is whether he has gone beyond an accepted level of behaviour resulting in his suspension and possible sacking by his employer.

Well, that is how I see it anyway.

I think because he has got away with so much political incorrectness and puerile behaviour over the years because he is a 'major talent' (not my words) and is very popular as a personality as well as for his programme that he thinks he can get away with anything.

In fact some would say that, until this latest incident, his utterances have been outrageous, probably unacceptable and very politically incorrect but hilarious over the years.

Not excusing him, but some people can get extremely irate when their blood sugar drops when they are hungry.

merlotgran Wed 18-Mar-15 11:23:11

Just a thought.....Some footballers have been accused of some really serious crimes like ABH and rape. Some have even served prison sentences.

I don't remember any football matches being cancelled as a result.

I could be wrong though hmm

Jane10 Wed 18-Mar-15 11:19:00

Oh no it wont! We need all the Pantomime characters like Jezza we can get!! I'm with jings!