Farage is getting frightening now

He always had been frightening.The problem is that he has always tried to play down what really is a heavily disguised Racist agenda.

Brilliant Ana and Petra thank you. I did see a trailer for it I think. I have set the box to record.

Trevor Phillips’s documentary, Things We Won’t Say About Race That Are True, is on Channel 4 on Thursday 19th March at 9pm.

Gracesgran. It will be on channel 4 but I can't find a date. It has been advertised.

Has it been broadcast Petra? If so I will look on the internet.

I do think there are problems as a consequence of immigration that are not being dealt with so perhaps he has some views on this. I find the " I believe that immigration from anywhere is a problem" view just too simplistic and often aimed at the immigrants who are almost certainly not to blame.

Gracesgran. You say that you don't believe that 'immigration from anywhere' is a problem. Try and catch the programme by Trevor Philips (who was the godfather of multicultural society) and see what he has to say.
He has had a complete turn around on his beliefs.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/michael-segalov/uk-activists-prevent-deportation-of-afghan-migrants

When reading about migrants, I'd much rather read about people like these, who actually care.

This was before the latest outburst.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2015/02/27/voters-see-ukip-as-nasty-racist-and-unprofessional

Exactly Gracegran- my mother was studying in Munich in 1933- and that is exactly how it was- people had no idea of what was to come. Mum had to leave when she witnessed jewish shops being smashed and their owners hit, beaten and himiliated in the street.

Thanks for the history lesson, gracesgran

If there was a "like" button Eloethan it would have been ticked.

Merologran the good people of Germany did not think they were living in a "pre-Nazi Germany". They thought they were backing someone who - ok - sometimes seemed to have extremists behind him but he was a good guy. He conjured the Germany they all thought they should get back to and a Germany for Germans (whatever that might mean).

And don't forget the shortage of GPs and general tendency to go to A and E for relatively minor ailments. Also the proliferation of new treatments now available leading to higher costs all round

mollie65 I think the speeches blaming Jewish people and other minorities for problems in Germany was how Hitler started. It was a gradual process of rabble rousing that enabled him to eventually build up a solid body of support for his policies, by which time it was too late for detractors to speak out against them.

In the "Meet the Ukippers" programme, it was absolutely clear that when UKIP told its supporters and candidates not to use "emotive" or "controversial" language It was really telling them not to make racist statements. The candidate who was sacked obviously thought it was acceptable, and not at all racist, to say that she didn't like "negroes" and wouldn't attend a dinner party if a negro was going to be present.

What is putting a strain on our infrastructure and welfare system is a government that has used the 2008 crash to implement its oft-stated wish to shrink the role of the state and replace public service with private profit.

I can understand people feeling worried or concerned about Nigel Farage but frightened??

We're not living in pre-Nazi Germany.

Eh?

I meant sheer increase of numbers using the service, nothing to do with the ethniciity of anyone.

It depends if money going in keeps pace with sheer increase in numbers. It doesnt with the NHS does it?

Mollie65 get a grip please is not really any sort of discussion. I do not agree with you. I do not believe ^immigration from wherever" is a problem. Not taking account of it may be but, in my opinion, it is helping our country at the moment.

I have said nothing about people who are concerned with immigration. I would not have done as this was about Nigel Farage and UKIP. I believe Nigel Farage's views and the way he appeals to those who feel disenfranchised has shades of Hitler - that is my opinion. It is as reasonable to have my opinion as it is for you to have yours. I have already said I feel we are more democratic than in 30s Germany so do not expect storm troupers currently and have never said I did.

Please read what I write not what you wish it to be so you can be negative about someone else's honestly held opinion.

I don't think there is any evidence that immigrants put our NHS or infrastructure under strain. In fact the immigrants pay more in in tax than they take out. They do jobs that need to be done and most work hard.

OK GG where has NF threatened ethnic minorities and enrolled a force of gestapo storm troopers. You know UKIP will not control any policies in the upcoming government of whatever colour - be more afraid of the SNP who will enter into coalition with whomever they feel will be biased towards their particular ends.
get a grip please - immigration from wherever is putting a strain on our infrastructure and welfare system - not to mention the NHS - to be concerned about that is not the same as supporting UKIP

Why didn't anybody kick up a fuss when Gorden Brown said "British jobs for British people"

I wondered that at the time.

We'll continue to import labour and export jobs as long as we're much richer than the rest of the world, because it's the wealth difference that drives the process. Even if the little Englanders succeed in pulling up the drawbridge it won't prevent the loss of jobs.

much as we all may dislike the man - I do think comparing him to Hitler and his ilk is a little OTT

Far from being OTT I think the frightening thing is how many people don't see the comparisons Mollie65.

Playing the devils advocate here. Why didn't anybody kick up a fuss when Gorden Brown said "British jobs for British people"
And the same again, in Wales, where jobs are being advertised where it states that: speaking Polish would be an advantage.

much as we all may dislike the man - I do think comparing him to Hitler and his ilk is a little OTT.

I heard that programme on Radio 4 yesterday Phoenix and I was astounded at how easily NF was able to wriggle out of things even after the recording are played back to him. he is very frightening, not the clown that many people think he is. He has, as the interviewer said yesterday, the ability to say what people want to hear, even if it is different from something said previously. He manipulates people, many who live with little prospect of an improvement in their living conditions, and then convinces them that it is all the fault of Europe/immigrants, the same tactics as other nasty people have used in the past to demonise Jews. The sad thing is that he likely despises the poor and disaffected who make up a lot of his potential supporters, and will let them down after they have done what he wants i.e. returned him as an MP.