This is so terribly sad.

We're all grown ups, absentgrandma and I think your post is just as offensive as others.

It's not for you to decide who should or should not be banned.

A good post, POGS and written with understanding from the heart.

soon we have our flights booked already and have a family member whose job is a pilot. This terrible incident just brings it home to us how vulnerable we are.

Merlot, being grown up is one thing- but I don't think that anyone here should have to take personal insults and attacks and swearing, 'f'ing nd blinding. It's not acceptable in real life, and shouldn't be acceptable here either.

Start a new thread.

I mean if you want to have a go at me. This isn't the place.

This is an Internet forum for adults not a PG film show. We don't need protecting from the odd expletive. If it offends sensibilities then tough.

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Yes, it was a cheap shot.

Maybe I should change my name to Perriergran

Less swearing on here than telly after the watershed.

This is so sad really. 150 plus people have lost their lives - the reason for which none of us is entirely clear.

Relatives are in bits, and suffering untold misery. Let us hope none of them read what is going on, on this thread.

Reason to be ashamed.

Sorry Julie - I posted before I read what you had written.

I don't think there has been anything other than respect for those who have lost their life or their families.

This always happens to interesting threads [sigh]

POGS you could always start a thread entitled - lets have an argument

Is that the five minute argument or the half-hour argument?

whatever you like really - depends on what sort of workout you like I suppose. I am useless as I tend to take it all too personally.

That there was in relation to the self-righteous post. Not Julie's post.

Nelliemoser, I meant the press described that mob who tried to attack the van as distressed and the children evil, for me what is more wicked than a crowd of adults behaving like a pack of wolves and to two small children .
the mob were not condemned by the press

The press are so quick to reach their own verdict

Five minutes is enough.Everything relevant has been said by then, any more is just repetition and rant.

Why on earth has my post complaining about remarks made about my being under the influence of drink and drugs, been deleted? Why?
Surely I've a right to defend myself against such low insults?

This is getting too much.

Presumably because it was in reply to absentgrandma's now-deleted post. I know GNHQ don't always delete replies but sometimes they do.

but I replied before ab's was deleted. It now looks as though I have said something untoward.

I am sick of this bloody website.

The title of this thread is apt - it is very sad to see a slanging match going on between ''grown-ups'' alongside the discussion of such a great tragedy.
If nothing else this horrific event has taught us this:
'Today is all we have'
For goodness sake make the most of it and stop trying to shout the loudest about something we can only speculate about until all the facts are established.