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Too sad to talk about really

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whitewave Sun 19-Apr-15 16:24:17

Just saw an advert relating to the migrants drowning in the Med. and a picture of someone carrying a baby - all you could see were two little feet in a pink baby grow and the rest of the baby was covered in a blanket she was obviously drowned. I cried.

Iam64 Mon 20-Apr-15 08:58:04

Yes, Jane10 makes a good point.

I wonder what diplomatic efforts are being made with the oil rich African states? The whole country seems to be descending into chaos and war, with attacks on immigrants in South Africa increasing.

We visit Crete often in the spring time and in recent years, the small village we stay in have experienced migrants attempting to cross the Libyan sea being washed up on their shores. Of course, they do all they can to help the survivors but where will it end

magpie123 Mon 20-Apr-15 08:44:04

Jane10 Well said.

Bellasnana Mon 20-Apr-15 08:43:47

It is not only Italian coastal towns that are bearing the brunt of this influx of immigrants. Tiny Malta also has far more than we can cope with. It is a terrible situation all round and, tragically, the bodies of those who drowned are being brought here today. sad

Jane10 Mon 20-Apr-15 08:27:00

This is such a hellish situation all round. Of course its appalling all these boatloads of desperate people but I was reading about some of the Italian coastal towns. I can't imagine how our city would cope with the constant arrivals of these poor souls in such huge numbers. Think of the pressure on the infrastructure.
I'm trying to be strictly practical here. I reckon the poor Italians must be suffering and pretty fed up.
Rather than fire fighting and damage limitation that's going on we should be trying to think of how to prevent desperate people taking to sea in the first place. Absolutely no easy answers. This is the outcome of years of political ups and downs. International pressure on the oil rich North African countries might be a start. I suppose those countries are quite happy to export people not wanting to live there in the first place. Also some people seem to think or be told of how wonderful life is in Europe. You only have to look at films of the squatter camps in Calais to give that the lie. Sigh. Its a hard old world.

pompa Mon 20-Apr-15 08:26:56

smile @ Soutra. Looking after GC, chaos here ATM, not thinking straight.

Soutra Mon 20-Apr-15 08:22:21

Glad you realise my angry was not directed at you Pompa.Very sorry this was unclear cupcake!

pompa Mon 20-Apr-15 08:10:57

Differently, I though you were angry with me because you were not with me.
As my GS says "silly Pompa" flowers

Iam64 Mon 20-Apr-15 08:10:53

Thanks Jingle for the petition - signed

pompa Mon 20-Apr-15 08:08:27

Sorry soutra, I had read that different

soontobe Mon 20-Apr-15 08:05:22

pompa, she did say that she wasnt angry with you.

pompa Mon 20-Apr-15 07:57:21

Soutra, you not only wipe it off your shoe, you watch out for it in future so that you don't get caught out again.

I think being angry with me was a bit strong - we may agree to differ but we are still flowers

soontobe Mon 20-Apr-15 07:53:29

No. Still wont link for me.

soontobe Mon 20-Apr-15 06:33:14

Tried to sign. My computer wont link. Has the petition been removed or is it my computer? [could be my computer as it is crashing daily lately].

Dowa the sun ever take any notice? It hasnt about page 3.

Rowantree Mon 20-Apr-15 01:19:50

Signed.

She is a warning from history. Many will have heard similar views before. Surely it should be illegal to spout such venom against another group of people in the way she has?

AshTree Sun 19-Apr-15 23:33:40

Signed. Thank you durhamjen - I hope many more people on here see this link and sign.

durhamjen Sun 19-Apr-15 23:29:04

Thanks. Over 150,000 people have signed already. And it's not just grannies.

merlotgran Sun 19-Apr-15 23:28:04

Signed. I do hope these online petitions actually have some weight to throw.

jinglbellsfrocks Sun 19-Apr-15 23:26:59

another petition to sign?

Soutra Sun 19-Apr-15 23:17:49

Signed

Marelli Sun 19-Apr-15 22:41:31

Signed. Thank you for the link Durhamjen.

durhamjen Sun 19-Apr-15 22:34:10

www.change.org/p/the-sun-newspaper-remove-katie-hopkins-as-a-columnist?source_location=trending_petitions_home_page&algorithm=curated_trending

Ana Sun 19-Apr-15 22:33:55

Easily, I'd imagine. She loves all the publicity and cares not one jot about what a load of grannies think about her.

Mishap Sun 19-Apr-15 22:23:06

There are those who will not ignore her and take on board what she is saying - and this will influence their behaviour.

Those who recognise the true nature and implications of what she is saying need to speak out.

Her whole approach revolts me - how does she sleep at night?

Soutra Sun 19-Apr-15 22:17:34

ignore this woman at your peril

No, Pompa that is precisely what we have to do. You wipe dogsh*t off your shoe but apart from that, you ignore it.
angry ( not with you )

Soutra Sun 19-Apr-15 22:13:47

Newspapers are focused on sales. The Sun is a despicable rag and no one with half a brain cell takes what is regurgitates with any sense of trust. It is time people stopped following the cr*p people like her peddle, looked at the facts and formed their own opinions.
This is a tragedy of monumental proportions-700 this month, 300 last? That's 1000 people who have died out of 31,000 migrants and have not only risked their lives but paid huge sums to unscrupulous people smugglers. The comparison with the slave trade is a valid one -huge amounts of money changing hands and total disregard for human lives. I don't pretend to have a solution, but in response to OP, however compassionate and well meaning, No, it is not too sad to talk about. We need to talk about it, care about it and and as a country and part of the EU, do something.