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Labour Party, Lib Dem Party - where to now.

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Gracesgran Sat 09-May-15 19:33:31

I wondered if anyone had any thoughts about what these two parties should be doing to recover from the trouncing the electorate has give them.

I find it interesting that, by the end of election day 1,000 people had become new members of the Lib Dems and by the end of today it had gone up to 3,000.

My own hope is influenced by the fact that, in the past, I was a founder member of the SDP who didn't (until yesterday) become a member of the Lib Dems, although I voted for them. I would love them to remember their Social Democratic principles as well as their Liberal history.

A study of Social Democratic countries shows us that they do not stifle aspiration or wealth but that they have a strong feeling that everyone contributes to a highly socially conscious fund, drawing on it in times of need not as if it were charity but more in relation to what has been paid in and therefore an insurance. Obviously there is more to Social Democracy than that but it is a starting point.

I have heard people who are inclined to a left of centre point of view commenting on liking the idea of the Social Democracy proposed for Scotland and I think would be interested to hear more of this from the Liberal Democrats.

soontobe Tue 12-May-15 21:22:12

I dont like working people either actually. As that rules out those who cannot work, and the retired.

Anya Tue 12-May-15 21:34:01

Dotsmam you've nailed it!

durhamjen Tue 12-May-15 21:41:48

I read an article which said there was really no reason why the SNP cannot stand in England the next time. That should be interesting.

Ana Tue 12-May-15 22:08:09

That's interesting. What article?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 12-May-15 22:13:23

You asking for a link Ana?

Ana Tue 12-May-15 22:31:12

No, just asking what article. Then I can look it up for myself.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 12-May-15 22:32:27

wink grin

Gracesgran Tue 12-May-15 23:31:51

Here's one Ana, although it may not be the one Jen saw. If you Google "Could the SNP stand in England" there are a few related articles.

news.channel4.com/election2015/04/28/update-4243/

smile

Anniebach Wed 13-May-15 13:43:14

.trisher, I have not mentioned Blair and N I

trisher Wed 13-May-15 13:57:34

Apologies Anniebach it was Tegan A long time back and the memory is slipping!

Anniebach Wed 13-May-15 15:01:48

Thank you trisha

durhamjen Wed 13-May-15 22:06:37

weownit.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=ef1f3f5b8067610251b19fb6c&id=64090e3b0e&e=9b816f1393

Mishap Wed 13-May-15 22:07:54

10,000 people have joined the Lib Dems since the general election now.

Tegan Wed 13-May-15 22:26:59

Just goes to show the effect that a great speech can make.

durhamjen Wed 13-May-15 22:50:36

People who are horrified about what has happened, do you think?
People who voted in expectation of another coalition?

durhamjen Wed 13-May-15 22:52:28

Labour's got 21,000 new members.

Anniebach Fri 15-May-15 11:12:08

Chuka Umunna has withdrawn from leadership contest,

GrannyTwice Fri 15-May-15 11:58:44

I didn't think he was the right person. I respect him for deciding to pull out now and realise what he was getting into sooner rather than later

whitewave Fri 15-May-15 12:25:59

Going to my local Labour party meeting this evening may find some stuff out but I doubt it - it will be more like a wake - although we did gain our seat from the Tories.

soontobe Fri 15-May-15 12:28:26

I should imagine that some people are joining so they can have a say on the new leaders?

What didnt you like about Chuka GT?

durhamjen Fri 15-May-15 12:31:53

You did really well,whitewave. Red and green in a sea of blue.
The other Brighton swung to Labour as well, so here's hoping for next time.

durhamjen Fri 15-May-15 12:33:23

I do not know about now but it used to be that you had to be a member for six months before you could vote on anything in the Labour party.
Is that still the same, whitewave?

durhamjen Fri 15-May-15 18:26:28

They are asking Keir Starmer to stand, despite the fact he's only just become an MP.

www.facebook.com/groups/1616165061959015/members/

durhamjen Fri 15-May-15 18:28:51

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/15/labour-activists-urge-keir-starmer-to-stand-for-party-leadership

rosequartz Fri 15-May-15 18:30:23

Has Tristram Hunt thrown his hat into the ring yet?

What little I have seen of him he seems to have had a charisma by-pass, but I could be wrong.