Gove and the Human Rights Act

But Ana, one reason for not waiting is that current reactions can be taken into account by the Government in the drafting without losing 'face'. They can hen say that they were never going to do that( whatever that is) anyway. It's pretty basic politics

This is interesting GrannyTwice.
Normally anything in the government manifesto gets passed by the House of Lords, but this might not because it is such a fundamental change.

publiclawforeveryone.com/2015/05/11/replacing-the-human-rights-act-the-house-of-lords-the-parliament-acts-and-the-salisbury-convention/

Repeal of the HRA is in Cameron's first 100 days plan. How long do we have to wait, Ana?

Thank you dj - that is a brilliant link. It synthesised a lot of random things I knew into a coherent whole. Mark Elliot has an impeccable academic pedigree

That's what I thought, too. Found it on this blog

jackofkent.com/

But have no idea how I found that.

UK human rights blog.

ukhumanrightsblog.com/2015/05/17/the-round-up-more-righteous-indignation-about-the-human-rights-act-in-both-camps/

According to this the scrapping of the human rights act is more political dynamite than the referendum, because of its implications in Europe, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2015/05/19/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-tories-human-rights-ac

There is a lot of concern about the human rights of the Trident whistleblower, and several human rights lawyers have said they would support him.
If Trident is going to be replaced, it sounds like they had better hurry up and do it.

There is an article in Breitbart saying that a government minister will give up his seat before supporting the abolishing of the 1998 Human Rights Act. There may be others who don't support the government's electoral promise which, the article suggests, was made in the belief that there would be another coalitionso it wasn't going to happen. The article also says abolishing the HRA is just a proxy for the 'battle' over EU membership.

www.theguardian.com/law/2015/may/24/british-courts-echr-leveson

Leveson being cagey, but says there is no need to repeal HRA.

Thatbags, I note that the article does not give a name for the government minister. It also says "their" which means it could be a he or she.
So Cameron could be facing a vote of no confidence in his first hundred days. It only needs another six rebels.

Just remembered years ago seeing Tony Benn, he had a tour where he read pieces from writers over the years about the long fight for Human Rights. It was so interesting and moving to hear the history of this movement. If only he was around to speak about this now.

His son can do a good job of it, trisher. It's strange watching the same mannerisms.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jugNw7rSdw
any talk of Tony Benn makes me play this song....

Thanks Tegan haven't seen that before. I did remember when he spoke about the Raging Grannies who he had seen in America and would have liked to join. Anyone intersted should look at-http://raginggrannies.org/starter-kit/
fantastic way to grow old disgracefully!!!

Been to the gala a few times over the years.
Our village now has a new banner or rather a restored one.

I'm so proud to have shaken his hand; I think he was the most decent man to ever walk the face of this earth. Sometimes can't believe he's no longer with us .

Wish I had, Tegan, shaken his hand, I mean.

www.politics.co.uk/news/2015/05/26/eve-of-battle-human-rights-act-supporters-bullish-ahead-of-q

At least five Tory MPs against the repeal of the HRA.

Won the first round, then. He appears to have chickened out.

I can see this term of government being one long round of Tory u-turns!

Hope so. Should there be a limit to the number of u-turns before another general election is called?
There's going to be a demo tomorrow when the Queen's speech is being read, and a march by No to Austerity to Downing Street. Should be interesting television tomorrow for anyone not having to go out.

I think there will be quite a lot of u turns too. Governments nowadays dont seem to think things through as well as they used to.

Well clearly DC has been listening. That can be spun into ( and will be) a positive or ( as I think) is an example as I said ^ of sound bite policy making without thinking through the implications and consequences and that is concerning. I also think that what has happened is an excellent example of why if we are against a policy proposal we should be vociferous from the getgo. Some of you said we should wait and see before scaremongering but that really isn't how politics works. As I also said ^ this now allows DC not to lose face in the way he would have done if it had gone say further without some much needed thought and consultation. I expect we will see the blessed Michael taking to the airwaves today saying something on the lines of being a listening government we have realised we have completely cocked up need more time to consider

Italics - sigh

There is now going to be a consultation about scrapping the HRA. Apparently that will be announced in the Queen's Speech today.

Yes - that's why they'll spin the 'listening ' bit. I mentioned consultation in my post. He clearly won't say he's dropping it at this stage but I guess it may well quietly disappear in the mayhem that the EU referendum will become