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Do some Tory voters now regret their decision?

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Mishap Sun 10-May-15 12:06:06

I am assuming that many did so expecting that there would be some sort of coalition. I wonder how many are now regretting their choice.

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 23:59:00

How come the left are always scaremongering, but the right were not scaremongering about the left before the election?

annodomini Mon 11-May-15 23:42:31

The Chancellor has a very handy scapegoat in IDS.

Penstemmon Mon 11-May-15 23:35:56

Oh sorry Anna must have confused you with a former colleague with same name but spelled differently! wink

Ana Mon 11-May-15 23:09:13

hmm

It's common sense.

(And my first name only has one 't' in it.)

Penstemmon Mon 11-May-15 22:56:14

Ana are you secretly in the cabinet??? Are you Pritti Patel in RL? You seem to have a lot of certainty about what the new government is going to do. (grin)

Ana Mon 11-May-15 14:26:39

Yes, child benefit will not be suddenly whipped away from those with more than 2 children - scaremongering again!

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 14:25:35

No idea, TerriBull. They haven't said yet, have they, but they have to save 10% of non-pensioner welfare spending somewhere. The chancellor is wary, because it implies that the state wants to discourage large families.

TerriBull Mon 11-May-15 14:01:01

Correct me if I'm wrong, the talked about limit to child benefit for the first two children will not apply to existing families, but in future where parents will have to make the choice of foregoing cb for 3rd and subsequent children.

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 13:36:39

Saw it, too, whitewave. It will not be long before some Tory voters change their minds, particularly those whose children have more than two children and stand to lose child benefit.

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 13:19:10

Not great business sense - wouldn't he be better giving 10% discount to anyone who claimed to have voted Labour grin

Eloethan Mon 11-May-15 10:32:56

I've been to Lewes many times TerriBull - I used to live in Sussex.

whitewave Mon 11-May-15 10:12:00

see IDS has been given the green light to implement the 12bn cuts in full.

merlotgran Mon 11-May-15 10:04:11

What a plonker.

Plenty of other garden centres.

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 09:55:23

Voted blush

rosequartz Mon 11-May-15 09:54:43

Is he offering free Sun Flowers to those who say they vited Labour? sunshine

TerriBull Mon 11-May-15 09:50:54

I know Lewes, Sussex, have been there often, my mum lived nearby when she was alive, it's a very pretty place, the county town of Sussex I believe. It has a steep hill that divides the two halves of the town, so take good walking shoes Eloethan. One of my son's friends who was a politics student at nearby Sussex University deemed the residents a bunch of weirdos, don't know quite know what he was alluding to, maybe he had Royston Vasey in mind grin so be careful!

Eloethan Mon 11-May-15 08:56:04

My husband's just shown me that. Very funny. Brave of him too to potentially alienate a lot of customers. There are 19,000+ Conservative voters in Lewis and 5,000+ UKIP. I'd be worried about the Sun's interest if I were him.

On the other hand, perhaps he'll gain some customers from other parties. When I'm in the area, I'll make a point of going there!

durhamjen Mon 11-May-15 08:05:36

There's a Tory tax in Lewes.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/10/garden-centre-owners-10-tax-for-tory-voters-sign-goes-viral

Bez Mon 11-May-15 07:53:20

There is a wealth tax here in France - not totally sure exactly how it works as we don't pay it but it seems that your world wide wealth is taken into account to decide if you pay it but on the form there is the question as to whether your total world assets are more than something like 1.3 million Euros. This does affect people who have their own pension pot as opposed to people like myself who have a Govt teaching pension - there is a reciprocal tax agreement so we need to declare income but also tax paid at source in UK and we get a credit for that. There does not appear to be a personal allowance here but a very low starting rate so for us it works that we pay about £500 more tax here than in UK which sort of means we pay it on our state pension or personal allowance. You are charged as a couple not individually.
If you pay very low taxes the tax office it seems informs other govt bodies - such as the equivalent body charging the council tax and that can be modified or waived. The year we moved here we were only living here for two months of the tax year so therefore paid no tax - we did not pay one of the house taxes either. I was worried we had not received the normal demand and went armed with cheque book to the local tax office where the man told me nothing to pay - I asked the question was it to do with the no come tax being charged and he agreed it was.
I suppose the rate of tax charged by different countries would play a part in whether the Non doms would need to pay tax - they would be likely to get credits for tax already paid elsewhere.

Riverwalk Mon 11-May-15 07:11:41

An American friend explained that US citizens are not taxed twice if they live abroad but that no matter where they live in the world they must make a tax return, they are then taxed on anything that hasn't been taxed elsewhere.

As I understand Boris Johnson's position, he was taxed by the US on profits from his house sale in the UK - presumably it was his main residence, and so not subject to tax here.

mumster Mon 11-May-15 00:26:12

Mumster is the term my children use for me. I am not on mumsnet and do receive a state pension. Does that qualify? Thanks for the welcome. I think I need to stop posting messages twice, though.

Eloethan Mon 11-May-15 00:21:36

It was a rather over-the-top statement that Lilly Allen made but I expect she was feeling - as some of us on here were - pretty devastated about the outcome of the election, and when people are upset they say and do silly things.

Conservative supporters like Paul Daniels, Tracey Emin and Griff Rhys-Jones - and, of course, the sweet and charming Katy Hopkins - have also at one time or another issued threats about leaving the country if Labour gets in.

I did look up some info about US taxation. I seem to recall that if an American citizen works for an American company but in another country, they can get some sort of dispensation given so that there isn't double taxation. It was all quite complicated to understand.

GrannyTwice Sun 10-May-15 23:38:19

What Ana meant to say is that you'll find some incredibly well- informed, intelligent, wonderful like minded posters. Hope you stay grin

Ana Sun 10-May-15 23:27:49

Although you'll find some very like-minded posters.

Ana Sun 10-May-15 23:19:34

Have you come over here to escape the relentless election threads on there? Out of luck if that's the case! grin