Out of the EU? (just for fun)

You're certainly left of centre, though, durhamjen. I think you said you were a Green supporter.

I'm sure we've al brought up our children the same way as you. What's that got do to with the issue?

I care about them all, rose. I brought my children up to think that everyone, whatever colour, faith or race is important. They brought their children up to think the same.

I'm not Labour, loopy. What made you think that I was?

You're still not answering my question, durhamjen. Why won't your grandson's parents get married to prevent the possibility of her deportation and put a stop to his fears?

I'd have thought his peace of mind would be the most important thing for you, not all this speculation about what might or might not happen in the future, which he has of course picked up on!

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/418010/Section_65_of_the_Immigration_Act_2014_-_web_page_-_update_March_2015.pdf

Does he come into this category djen?
If so, all is not lost.

so spouses of British citizens who were born in Commonwealth countries are being deported

No-one seems to care about them!!

I'm Ana, totally irresponsible to plant the ideas in people's minds who may think it's fact.

Personally I'm glad the Conservatives got in if this is the sort of behaviour (and presumably typical?) Labour devotees think appropriate on a public forum. No wonder their Party is in such a mess

I cannot for one millisecond imagine my DDIL being expelled back to Italy minus my DGS and DS! Utter bulls...t!

eulawanalysis.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/what-would-happen-to-eu-nationals.html?m=1

Jane's link again.
It's the law, jingl.

When he was born if your parents were not married, you took your mother's nationality. When his cousin was born in 2000, she could have her father's nationality because her parents were married. Her mother was born in USA, from US and Norwegian parents.
When his sister was born in 2007, eight years ago yesterday, the rules changed so she could be British, even though the parents had the same status. Getting British nationality after your parents marry is not retrospective. Unless the law changes again, of course.

If his dad's name on his birth certificate, are you sure he can't have British nationality?
As far as I am aware, he can.
My DGS was not born in the UK but has a British passport through DD who was born here.
His father is not British.
If they came to live here, his father would probably not be able to stay because the country where he was born is not a member of the EU.
It is a Commonwealth country and they have been abandoned in favour of the EU, so spouses of British citizens who were born in Commonwealth countries are being deported.

The scenario you describe, Djen, may never happen, and if we did leave the EU then I am sure people already living here legally would not be deported.

Yes, loopylou, but as I said, they don't let the truth get in the way of a good bit of scaremongering.

For heavens sake!
Talk about stirring things up. None of us know what the impact of the Referendum might be and until any of us know a lot more about options etc the gloom and doom on this thread is, IMO, pure speculation.

How on earth did the young lad get to hear about this? From adults who should have known better than to plant the idea of him being separated from his mother in his brain.

Since when did anyone say it would mean expelling everyone not born in GB from the country? That's blatant scaremongering by certain anti-Conservative posters, no where can I find anything whatsoever about this on the Internet or it even being a vague possibility.

If his dad's name on his birth certificate, are you sure he can't have British nationality? Why does he have to have only his mum's?

Who is?

NB is a British citizen

He could still be a Viking. Bless him!

I really thought if you weere married to a British person, you could stay in this country. Couldn't she have dual nationality? (I don't know much about this tbh. (I still think getting hitched is the best idea))

You originally said your grandson was worried that his mum might be sent back to Denmark. Rosequartz and I were suggesting that if his parents got married that would not happen (not that it would anyway!).

That was the problem we thought you and your grandson were concerned about. I don't understand all that about nationality - of course your DILs would still be Danish and Spanish...

I have, Ana. It's just that you did not understand.
His mother will still be Danish. Whether his parents are married or not married does not matter to him. She was born in Denmark and will always be Danish. Do you expect her to denounce her place of birth? Would you? When she moved here twenty+ years ago, it did not matter. It does now, because of the uncertainty of whether we stay in the EU or not.
If his parents get married, it will not make any difference to his status, unless the law has changed lately.
My other son's wife is Spanish. Being married does not make her less Spanish.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good scaremongering story...

sorry, 'children', I know some people hate the word 'kids' and I am not keen myself!

I think the plan is to reduce the number of immigrants coming in in the future, in light of the expansion of the EU. I really don't think it's about sending the likes of your grandson's mum back to ytheir previous countries.

Well, my DM used to say 'Don't meet trouble half-way, perhaps it will never happen'.
I would not want my DGS to get so anxious about his DM and think that kids have enough burdens to carry soon enough without grownups burdening them with theirs.
If the worst happens, I would want to put a positive spin on it for my DGS's sake.

Right-wing propaganda about immigrants! What rubbish.

You still haven't said what's wrong with them getting married, and putting your grandson's mind at rest, durhamjen.

And I don't want us to exit the EU so what are you going on about?

It's about the country's economics as much as anything.

What did you think exit from the EU would be about, jingl? It's about people who live here being made to feel uncomfortable, not wanted, etc., not just about EU laws and jobs.