Out of the EU? (just for fun)

It is aways better to be married if one of you is living in a foreign country. We got married for that reason but not being married wouldn't matter as much now. I am sure that no one wth a job would have to leave Germany but if ill with failing health - then that might be a problem.
It makes you realise what a marvellous institution the EU is.

There is probably going to be a quota for immigrants as we can't leave it all to the Italians, and such an improvement might tip the referendum. That woud really be tragedy - I hope it doesn't happen.

www.rspb.org.uk/community/ourwork/b/martinharper/archive/2015/05/12/defend-nature-blog.aspx

Something that the EU does.

This thread has got a bit confusing but that looked like a very useful link posted by rosequartz on11 may 20:01:39

I hope the info we get about the EU is more factual than a lot of the stuff we have had recently in the GE.
Ajockalypse! How we laughed.

Trisher You are right about children being aware of political events.
I remember being very worried at the time of the Suez Crisis and asking my mother if there was going to be another war. We knew about war because we'd heard all about it not only from parents but also from older children, there were air raid shelters in the school playground and some people still had them in their back gardens.
I was 6 years old and knew about Suez because we always had the Home Service on at tea time.

Re the cheese. I think British artisan cheeses are now so good it wouldn't particularly bother me if I never ate French cheese again. Perhaps one unexpected benefit of all the milk quotas was that British farmers had to diversify so we now have lovely British cheeses and yoghurts.
I still want to stay in the EU though.

Also perhaps in view of the fact that it is likely that the referendum may be sooner rather than later it may be useful (this is very boring I know) to get ourselves informed with regard to the EU - how it functions, how democratic it is - the structure - who holds the power - what is in it for UK- what are the arguments for leaving/staying etc etc.

I might start a thread if no-one else does but first I need to get informed - I did actually look at this at university but have forgotten absolutely everything!!!!

durhamjen sorry things have become so personal about your family. For those who have posted about how children shouldn't know about what is happening in this country. I was crossing the road outside a school just as it was finishing on election day, a group in front of me were discussing the election and one boy declared that he would have voted UKIP, this resulted in several of the others declaring he was racist. How old were they?- about 9! My grandson who is 12 has just completed some Geography homework on housing and development. His research resulted in some information taken from the internet about immigration being the reason we needed so much new housing which led to us discussing the subject extensively. Those who think a 13 year old won't be aware of what is happening today are living in some strange imaginary world.
To keep some fun in this, brought some Brie today (I do love French cheese) will it be more expensive if we leave? and will this lead to cheese-smuggling?

You're welcome jen.

I agree, janea, and thanks. I've passed the link to my son and his partner.
We all need to know what we are voting for, which seems to be going to be next year, not 2017 after all.

The link I posted was to a blog written by Helena Wray, Reader in Law at Middlesex University and editor of Journal of Immigration Asylum and Nationality Law.

I have no idea why you think that's irresponsible and scaremongering, Loopylou.
I think generally it's best to get one's information from people who probably know what they're talking about.

Thanks, jingl.

I shouldn't have suggested their getting married. It was too personal. It just seemed the obvious thing. Sorry durhamjen.

This thread either has a lot of people getting alarmed probably over nothing at all.

Or it is being intentionally whipped up.

I cant decide which.

I actually prefer it to be the former.

Of course not. I wouldn't dream of it.

jingl, thanks for that. Perhaps you'd like to report my posts?

I thought the problem was that your grandson was worried his mum was going to have to go back to Denmark.

Suggestions were made that she could marry your son and she would not have to go back to Denmark.

Why would anyone want her to 'stop being Danish'? You seem to be on a completely different wavelength to all those who have actually tried to address what we assumed was the problem, which was your grandson being upset.

Sorry for trying to help...

Ana. I think you are going too far.

She's not my daughter, she's my son's partner, the one you wish would marry my son and solve all their problems.
Yes, my grandson is home educated, but you still have to try to educate according to his needs, ability and aptitude. He discusses politics when we go to get the newspaper. He also gives money and works out the change. Not all autistic kids have a mental age of five, you know.
No he doesn't take part in all our discussions about the state of the world, but he does ask intelligent questions. Doesn't always listen to the answers.

Why have you got such a fixation on my son and his partner getting married?
I have told you, it will not stop her being Danish. There is no such thing as a fairy wand, except in pantomimes and fairy tales. Hans Christian Andersen's tales are a lot darker than we are told.

School children? I thought your grandson was autistic and home educated by you and your daughter, durhamjen. So he takes part in all your discussions about the state of the world does he?

Yet your son and his partner won't marry to ease their son's worries...

FFS durhamjen! they haven't gone, and won't have to!

I wouldn't underestimate DC Grannytwice.

Rose, I'd love to go to Denmark to visit them, but it costs an arm and a leg. Can't go by ferry as I get seasick.
Anyway, my grandson has said I can go there to live with them if they have to move. He's already planning how to get there using his lorry simulator.

What age do you think school children should get involved in political discussions, Ana?
My children did humanities from the age of eleven and discussed politics. My seven year old granddaughter had an election in her class last week. Immigration came up in it, as did economics and fairness.
If the British people do not get their referendum,there will be riots, and not from the left.

Amateur dramatics GT?
You have a good point there Ana

Ana - get enough concessions? < falls on floor clutching sides>

As for 'getting personal', I stand by what I said.