Bill Shankly said football was much more important than life and death

Well, thank goodness the Cup Final has finally been played for another year. The game was discussed beyond it's merit (yes our t.v. was on because my son and husband like the game), and the usual prancing of egoists was accepted as being o.k. We seem to have lost our perspective as regards to professional football being a sport.

My son said that at his school (rugby only) the two games were defined as

Football is a gentleman's game played and supported by hooligans.

Rugby is a hooligan's game played and supported by gentlemen.

Defined by character, not class. I know it's a generalisation, but I have often wondered how the atmosphere at a rugby game can be so different. DBH is a gentleman who supports football, sadly for me. He fondly imagined that DS would share his enthusiasm, and was quite despondent when it became obvious that DS likes squash, trampolining, going to the gym etc. and can only stand about ten minutes more of any football game than I can.

I tell him that if ever he has to join a dating site, put at the top 'Do not like watching football' and the girls will be queuing up!

My son in law is the same janerowena, mad on football, his son not in the least bit interested, archery, swimming, squash, dancing!(much to his dad's displeasure) and music - which they do both enjoy. It takes all sorts fortunately. Incidentally with regard your last paragraph, any photos of our grandson on Facebook and he is surrounded by very lovely girls, and he himself is nothing to write home about!

janerowena I totally agree! You don't seem to get rugby hooliganism!

May be going against the majority, but I hate, loathe and detest football.

Quite a few years ago I had the kernel of an idea for a play, basically two old gents that played war games/battles against each other on-line. In my idea, it then progressed to them actually controlling their own "armies" (fans of particular clubs) and playing out battles for real.

Unfortunately I think that while I was still in then planning stage, someone beat me to it! Such is life.

That sounds quite scary!

Thank goodness Sepp Blatter's actually agreed to resign - under duress of course. What a pompous, arrogant man he is.

Wonder what's just about to be exposed?

Yes Jane10, something corrupt perhaps

Arrogant isn't a strong enough word for this individual. I was listening to the radio earlier today and apparently 'something has come to light' making him change his mind, something pretty big I suspect.

I can't believe his attitude at all, clearly deluded about his indispensability I suggest.