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Cameron - a "shrewd & malevolent psychopath"?

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FarNorth Mon 08-Jun-15 20:27:17

Not that I am suggesting such a thing, but here is a thought-provoking article from the Guardian :
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/01/david-cameron-moriarty-downing-street-radical-thatcher

(For those who don't like links, the title of this thread gives a good clue, so you can just go from there. smile)

soontobe Tue 09-Jun-15 17:01:25

I have been trying to work out the point of endless tory bashing.
And I cannot come up with a single answer.

durhamjen Tue 09-Jun-15 16:53:31

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2015/03/26/comment-boarding-school-has-scarred-our-leaders

trisher Tue 09-Jun-15 16:52:40

Haven't said they aren't intelligent or well educated but if flogging Royal mail for significantly less than its market value, and proposing to do the same to a bank that is largely publicly owned, whilst passing legislation which puts us at the whim of vast corporations and restricts our human rights is "gettting the country back on track" I actually prefer it off track thank you!

loopylou Tue 09-Jun-15 16:52:36

Very good point jingl but for some Tory bashing is preferable to considering other options. And don't forget tens of thousands of Labour supporters clearly thought them a sounder choice than their own party, so perhaps the majority of voters aren't wrong?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 09-Jun-15 16:47:41

Just maybe they both happen to be two extremely well educated and intelligent individuals who have both managed to cut a good path in life, and are now trying to successfully get this country back on track. But to call them that wouldn't be so much fun would it?

soontobe Tue 09-Jun-15 16:37:09

Or superiority.

trisher Tue 09-Jun-15 16:36:38

This is about 2 posh boys who are making the rich richer, if you read my first post. The name is a bve product

soontobe Tue 09-Jun-15 16:36:17

Confidence is underrated.
Not to be confused though with over confidence or arrogance.

rosesarered Tue 09-Jun-15 16:32:21

petallus, have you ever considered, since their uniforms mark them out, that these children/young adults feel as if they stand out and are a bit defensive because of it, or are people going after children now, blaming them for 'posh uniforms and names' because that is what it sounds like.Not very edifying on Gransnet.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 09-Jun-15 16:31:28

They might actually be superior petallus! grin

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 09-Jun-15 16:30:23

Does it count if you went to a boarding school as a day girl? Does that make me one of the 7 percent!? smile

rosesarered Tue 09-Jun-15 16:27:35

Lots of people have names they don't much like, so change them or use their second names, so what? or is this a' Ooh look, he has a posh funny name har -har' situation Trisher?

trisher Tue 09-Jun-15 16:25:56

Oh no. Very smart move. Still quite funny though.

petallus Tue 09-Jun-15 16:23:36

I live near a well-known public school and the pupils are often to be seen strolling around the town.

I do get the impression that they regard themselves as just a bit superior to the children who go to the local comprehensive!

petallus Tue 09-Jun-15 16:20:43

Someone I know who went to boarding school said pupils were always being reminded that they were 'one of the 7 percent' by which was meant special.

Incidentally, I don't think that percentage has changed all that much over the years.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 09-Jun-15 16:17:18

At 14 too! Sensible boy!

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 09-Jun-15 16:16:36

Well, you can't blame him for changing his name, can you? confused

trisher Tue 09-Jun-15 16:14:10

Why not make fun of a name? Incidentally Gideon means (depending on which site you look at) a hewer down, a destroyer, one who cuts off.
Now we know why he changed it!!!

rosesarered Tue 09-Jun-15 16:05:14

I echo what Grumppa says, especially with reference to Frankie Boyle!

rosesarered Tue 09-Jun-15 16:03:40

Why make fun of a name?Would it be better if he had been called Wayne?

JessM Tue 09-Jun-15 15:45:59

Almost but not quite. Parents must have thought it was a good name for someone destined to run a wallpaper empire.

trisher Tue 09-Jun-15 15:21:49

He was christened "Gideon" changed his name to "George" at 14, was apparently known to his friends as "Giddy" Almost makes you feel sorry for him doesn't it?

JessM Tue 09-Jun-15 15:07:14

Trisher they keep reading those Murdoch newspapers without asking themselves why on earth they believe everything printed in them.
Gideon? Really? grin

trisher Tue 09-Jun-15 14:54:45

Oh I don't think he is a shrewd malevolent psychopath. I think he is a self interested rich kid who realised him and his best mate (once called Gideon now better known as George) could con the public into voting for them, flog the Royal Mail and a bank off to their friends, introduce some very dodgy legislation and get paid for doing it. Following the example of another PM he could them move into well-paid public posts and become even richer. On second thoughts - he probably is a smp just not the first. Could it be that the British public gets the leader they deserve?

grumppa Tue 09-Jun-15 14:34:53

Not if it involves taking Frankie Boyle seriously.