Just how arrogant are the anti-EU Conservatives?

Jeremy Corbyn is the only one standing against austerity.
That's the bigger picture for me.

Hi durhamjen surely the Labour Party want to elect a leader who could win the next General Election. Liz Kendall in my opinion would be their best bet.

I've long since come to the conclusion all politicians are 'economical with the truth' in order to achieve what they want, regardless of which party.
So nothing's new in politics.
It just depends on who's the most plausible at any one moment in time.

I meant the bigger picture of if Corbyn gets elected, that probably means that Labour wont get back in power for a longer period of time. But that doesnt seem to matter to a lot of people.

Labour told all sorts of lies but still didn't get in! Funny old world, that of politics!

What do you mean, soon? Whose bigger picture?
The Tories told all sorts of lies to get in. They thought they would be okay because there would be a coalition. Now they have found out their plans are unravelling fast. They all have to keep uttering the words "long term economic plan", but they do not have one.

The bigger picture doesnt matter much?

The Tories want Corbyn to get in, as he is the candidate they fear the least.

It reminds me of the thread where voting tactically was not seen as a good idea.

Why do you find it strange, soon?
Corbyn is a proper socialist, not like the others. He was also a good friend of Tony Benn's.

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Terribull, this is how we treat asylum seekers in this country.

I find it strange that any posters on here want Corbyn to get voted in.

But magpie, you do not want the left to win an election. Therefore you should hope that Corbyn is voted in.

Here's an answer to the problem of refugees, too.

theconversation.com/do-you-believe-in-magic-how-european-sleight-of-hand-will-make-migrant-boats-disappear-43301

Such a clever trick.

Well said that man!

regardless of who they elect
none of them (any politicians) can hold a candle to Tony Benn who I greatly admired
his views on the EU : -

"My view of the EU has always been not that I am hostile to foreigners but I am in favour of democracy. I think they are building an empire and want us to be part of that empire, and I don't want that."

"When I saw how the European Union was developing, it was very obvious what they had in mind was not democratic. In Britain, you vote for a government so the government has to listen to you, and if you don't like it you can change it."

They will choose Andy Burnham.

Gracesgran There are lots of ordinary people who support Conservatives for Britain, who do not want to remain in the EU. I am just voicing my views.

If by a slim chance Jeremy Corbyn, a far left MP became leader of the Labour Party, I personally do not think he would have a chance in hell of winning an election.

Perhaps the far left on here could be a bit more tolerant of those on the right.

Jeremy Corbyn. Sorry.

If say, Jeremy Corby got elected, and if as others say, he is left wing, and so would be difficult to get Labour back in power, does that matter?

Trying to make out you hold the moral high-ground again I see magpie123 . Could you just try to be a little less intolerant towards other people's beliefs. There will be quite a sizable cohort within the Labour Party who agree with Jeremy Corbyn and I would imagine they are at least as much "in their right mind" as you are.

My post referred to magpie's succinct contribution!

DJ hope you're taking heed of that last post.
If only you'd taken a real interest in politics, become involved and really thought about your political attitudes and loyalties then you too would be able to offer concise and valuable comments like that!!!!

Strangely it's not only some GN who don't sympathise with the plight of refugees. Hungary proposes to build a 110 mile barrier along it's border with Serbia to stop desperate migrants trying to enter. They also have a controversial banner campaign "Don't Take Hungarian Jobs" I'm wondering if that is at all legal given the debacle over the Gordon Brown comment "British Jobs for British Workers" In the meantime magnanimous Poland, who appear to assume movement of people only goes one way, have also stated that they don't want to take any of the boat people, one of the spurious grounds for this is "cultural sensibilities" seemingly they and the rest of Eastern Europe are stuck in some 1950s time warp as far as race is concerned and as Petra pointed out on another post a large part of Eastern Europe has been totally incapable of assimilating it's Roma community who migrated there about 1000 years ago.

The European ideal of a cohesive "one people" sharing a common European identity and purpose is tosh, many EU countries and areas revert to a protective nationalism if they feel they are put in a situation that will affect them negatively.

How could anyone in their right mind vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

Maybe he should have said all right thinking people.