Terror attacks in France and Tunisia/now

Thank you Jen

A report out today about Muslim graves in Nottingham being attacked. Why? Does that make the people doing it any better than IS?
All they are doing is splitting the community.
I hope whoever did it is found and made to make reparation. I would also like to hear non-muslims condemn it.

people attacking graves - wrong, wrong, wrong
ISIS killing and butchering innocent people - evil, evil, evil
how can you compare the two and suggest that people who attack graves no better than ISIS really

I read that our police have been warned that we're next.

Unfortunately the IS killers can't be 'made to make reparation'...

Earlier this year a young Asian dentist was shopping in a supermarket, a white supremist attacked him with a machete and hammer, serious injuries to the head and left hand almost severed . This came up in a discussion I was in and someone said - he was lucky , not like poor Lee Rigsby.

Saying desecrating graves shouldn't be compared with acts carried out by ISIS is no different , all acts of hatred are wrong and surely shouldn't be on a scale of 0 to 10

I was talking about splitting the community. Whoever did it, it was probably because they wanted to set muslim against non-muslim and escalate the problem.
Desecrating Muslim graves is evil, too, as is desecrating any grave, particularly to religious people.

Saying desecrating graves shouldn't be compared with acts carried out by ISIS is no different , all acts of hatred are wrong and surely shouldn't be on a scale of 0 to 10
I can't believe anyone would say such a thing if they think about it for more than a second.
if the graves were desecrated as an act of hatred /revenge (incidentally it was not just Muslim graves according to reports)
did anyone die, was anyone attacked - no
it was wrong but perhaps understandable that they felt they had to express their feelings.
sometimes I feel Gransnet (and Mumsnet) is a parallel universe and I obviously have no place in it

grannyonce, you would accept the graves of your loved ones being desecrated because someone felt they had to express their feelings ?

You're welcome to stay in your other universe, grannyonce, the one where you forget about the rest of the world.
No it was not just Muslim graves, but Nottingham police believe the Muslim graves were targeted.
Again, you are grading; wrong but understandable. Slap on the wrist then for that, eh?

Don't be so patronising, durhamjen. grannyonce certainly isn't the only one to think that desecrating graves is not on a par with mass murder.

This is going to be tedious, but I am going to have to discuss fundamentalism yet again.

As far as I know, IS is not muslim fundamentalism?

The non grading issue explains a lot.

Grannyonce said she felt in a parallel universe. Just agreeing with her.

Who was the slap on the wrist for, then?

I know someone will tell me we must not look back- but today a friend posted official postcards, stamped and sent by French soldiers from Morrocco and Algeria in 1912 (the year my dad was born) with the picture showing the severed heads of Morrocans and Algerians, with eyes pierced and tongues cut out- and lined up on a stone wall and at the bottom too- dozens- and the message home boasting at what they had done in the name of France. I'm afraid in North Africa- these memories of what happened to their grandfathers and great-grand fathers, the rape of their grandmothers and great grandmothers and the slaughtering of children- in the name of French colonialism, are still very much alive.

Does this excuse this? No, no at all, not in the slightests. But British and French colonialism and its atrocities still have consequences to this day.
I won't post the postcards- it is just too gruesome.

Grannyonce sounded as if she wanted to give a slap on the wrist to whoever desecrated the graves, as it was wrong but understandable.

That's horrible, granjura. When you say your friend posted them, what did you mean? On the internet? Through the post? Neither should be allowed.
As you say, it was sickening then, not just now, but then it was civilised Europeans doing it to "savage" Africans.

granjura, I so agree with you, nothing excuses murder but atrocities carried out during the years of colonialism are not forgotten . And no one can deny this country carried out the most brutal acts, as did other countries in the west

Oh here we go....Whatever happens it's all our fault.

Yes, we've brought it on ourselves and should be beating our breasts and wearing sackcloth and ashes because of what our forefathers did - serves us jolly well right!

Anniebach, cannot understand your reasoning at all! To say acts of hatred should be all classed the same! To say that desegrating graves is just as bad as committing murder! In your opinion then, all people who commit a crime should be given the same sentence !!!

Surely you can't really believe that. Maybe your comments are made just to wind people up and should be just ignored as such. Personally I find them in bad taste!!!

Oh FFS Anniebach! You can't go back that far! Blame it on Blair and BUsh, yes, but not colonialism. Sooner or later people have to live in the present and take the blame for their actions.

Please don't feel obliged to discuss fundamentalism again soon.

Bobbysgirl, I do not post to wind up. I do think to dismiss the desecration of graves as - no one was killed is cruel , true no one was killed but there must have been people devasted so to dismiss it is in my opinion cruel, not in yours , fair enough

Jingl, did you see granjura's post? That's what Annie is talking about.
It's only a hindred years since the 1st World War. There should be lessons in that, or have we all forgotten?