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The Summer Budget

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Gracesgran Wed 01-Jul-15 08:21:35

The "Summer Budget" is a week today. The Conservatives told us they would cut the benefits budget by £12 billion a year – where do you think that will be? These are some ideas that have been floated.
(1) Reduce the benefit cap
(2) Reduce benefits for migrants although that could prove more difficult and could also affect British subjects working in the rest of the EU
(3) They could also cut Child Benefit. They have said they won't cut it but they could keep the rate the same and limit the number of children who get it.
(4) They have targeted the under 25s in the past and may do more of this. One suggestion is that they will change Job Seekers allowance to a Youth allowance for this age group and that is could only be claimed by those in an apprenticeship, a traineeship, or doing daily community work.
(5) The Tories have also looked into extending the bedroom tax. If they were going to do it they would need to do it as early as possible in the parliament as it has been very unpopular with nowhere for people to move to.
(6) Comes from talk about maternity pay. Will they expect employers to contribute? It has been suggested. That could be a tough one for the Tories re business.
(7) Tax credits seem quite a sure bet though as DC has said that he wants to stop the "pay benefits/get tax" merry-go-round. Where and how is the question on this one in my mind.
(8) Regional benefit caps have also been floated with more benefits for London and less for the regions. With the government pushing out "spending powers" to the regions this would end up with a "not me gov" excuse so could look tempting to GO.
(9) Contributory employment support allowances have been in the government’s view finder. If these went those with savings and/or another household income would get no Job Seekers if they lost their job as this would be totally means-tested
(10) The disabled and carers could be hit by the taxing of disability living allowance, personal independence payments and attendance allowance – the last of which is paid to over-65s who receive personal care.

durhamjen Wed 15-Jul-15 19:13:39

Thanks FarNorth.

FarNorth Wed 15-Jul-15 02:57:13

Watching parliament channel.

durhamjen Tue 14-Jul-15 22:52:14

Have just read this. They want to change the way statistics are collected now.

fullfact.org/live/2015/jul/accountability_parliament_statistics_authority_review-46470

What a surprise!

durhamjen Tue 14-Jul-15 22:48:38

Cannot find anything about that, FarNorth. Where did you get it from?

FarNorth Tue 14-Jul-15 19:28:23

MPs have voted to approve the Chancellor's budget.
Aye 320. No 290.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jul-15 23:14:00

Thanks Jen, i thought the government were doing the same in England which is why i said I hope they keep their word, it would be great if they did

durhamjen Mon 13-Jul-15 23:04:18

I think it's just Wales. I cannot find anything similar in England.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jul-15 22:58:35

Is this only in Wales or country wide ?

Anniebach Mon 13-Jul-15 22:56:01

Jen, I hope they keep to their word. Our assembly will support until twenty five - as you said . I have put my name forward, I have a spare room , difficult enough settling in university without having to leave one's foster home as well and foster homes are needed for school age children . This is a market town so if a young person comes to my place he/she can stay in contact with their foster home which is good

durhamjen Mon 13-Jul-15 22:36:02

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/youngsters-foster-care-can-stay-9438511

In Wales they can stay until 25 if they have an education plan.

durhamjen Mon 13-Jul-15 22:33:31

Annie, from what I have read, councils are responsible for youngsters in care until they are 21, which presumably means paying rent. They cannot make them homeless.

durhamjen Mon 13-Jul-15 22:27:51

Full Fact on cutting child tax credits.

fullfact.org/factcheck/economy/child_tax_credit_cut_promise-46421

durhamjen Mon 13-Jul-15 13:23:00

Just seen this on the Guardian website.

t.co/IPWaU7F08q

Another broken promise, Cameron saying they would not cut tax credits.

Anniebach Mon 13-Jul-15 09:37:16

Don't know what the government intend doing to help the children who leave foster homes and care Jen. The Welsh Assembly has started a drive to find homes for these youngsters, if they no longer have help with rent and with the fact there are only private lets and hostels for them even more will be homeless I truely fear for the young

whitewave Mon 13-Jul-15 09:10:46

Well no need for the better off to worry, but for the poorest, powerless every need to worry.

FarNorth Mon 13-Jul-15 08:46:43

I'm sure someone, earlier in this thread, said there was no reason for anyone to be worried.
I think they might have got it wrong, though.

durhamjen Mon 13-Jul-15 00:27:19

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2015/07/09/osborne-s-cut-to-housing-benefit-will-drive-young-people-int

Homelessness is the next word.
Shelter is very worried.

durhamjen Sun 12-Jul-15 22:47:06

Haven't they said that looked after children have to be looked after until they are 25 now? I remember seeing something about that in parliament before the budget, I think, Annie.

Wasn't particularly thinking about being anecdotal. I thought most people wanted their children and grandchildren to have more secure lives than they had. This will be very difficult for many families after the budget.

Anniebach Sun 12-Jul-15 22:35:38

What will become of the young people who leave foster care at sixteen . The Welsh government has already started an appeal for homes for sixteen to twenty one year olds

FarNorth Sun 12-Jul-15 22:27:43

There is still legislation against unfair dismissal but, of course, it costs quite a bit to go to court about it.

Gracesgran Sun 12-Jul-15 21:46:01

It's such a cliff edge at 25. Will they all be thrown out of jobs when they reach it? I wouldn't even know where to advise them these day - thank heavens I don't have to.

Anya Sun 12-Jul-15 21:02:37

If we are being anecdotal, by the time I was 25 I was expecting my second child, so I had to give up work. DH was just starting up the business (which was to go under 10 years later) we had no money, so we had to sell out first house and move in with my mother.

durhamjen Sun 12-Jul-15 20:24:59

By the time I was 25, we were buying the third property we had lived in. I cannot see that for any of my grandchildren, with all the debts they have, which we did not.

whitewave Sun 12-Jul-15 20:10:17

Yes dj I argued that earlier amongst other stuff. It is definitely all coming clearer now the dust has settled and it has come in for a lot of criticism from the IFS, the Church and economists.
There is no moral justification for not including the young in the minimum wage.

durhamjen Sun 12-Jul-15 19:58:51

I think one of the worst things Osborne has done in the budget is targeting the under 25s.
No living wage for them, no housing benefit, etc. He's definitely increased the generation gap in this budget, both financially and ideologically.