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Concern within the Labour Party that Jeremy Corbyn is doing well

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Gracesgran Sun 12-Jul-15 09:34:47

A Labour pressure group has asked party members to vote against Jeremy Corbyn in the leadership contest.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33490959

Tristram Hunt was also saying, on Marr this morning, that Labour needs an English Labour party as they now have Welsh Labour and Scottish Labour.

This has left me cogitating about where the Labour Party will go.

whitewave Wed 19-Aug-15 11:55:17

grin He will look all posh when he's done. Just bathed him so he is a ball of fluff at the moment.

durhamjen Wed 19-Aug-15 11:45:13

Or even stripping dogs?

Luckygirl Wed 19-Aug-15 11:30:17

What is this new hobby "stripping digs"? grin

whitewave Wed 19-Aug-15 11:17:25

Bugger!!! Monbiot and Owen in the Guardian today. I particularly liked the Monbiot piece as he voiced my thoughts almost exactly.

whitewave Wed 19-Aug-15 11:15:26

Also some good articles from zMombiot

whitewave Wed 19-Aug-15 11:14:50

JC on News at 1 PM today I can't listen as off getting the dog stripped.

durhamjen Wed 19-Aug-15 11:10:11

Well said, Annie.

Anniebach Wed 19-Aug-15 10:49:44

No, pacifists to the left of me, arms dealers to the right

gillybob Wed 19-Aug-15 10:36:27

Reminds me of a song .....

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.....smile

Anniebach Wed 19-Aug-15 10:31:13

rosesarered, no, not Lord of The Rings , I don't bring fiction into politics
.

Hunt etc are to the right in the party, not to the right as Tory far right

Anniebach Wed 19-Aug-15 10:26:46

Ana, not rubbish, I spoke to voters across the country , all that was talked of was Scotland and England this even overshadowed fear of immigrants in the last few weeks

rosesarered Wed 19-Aug-15 10:10:18

Hunt and Ummuna are hardly what you can call right wing.Nor is Yvette Cooper, come to that.

rosesarered Wed 19-Aug-15 10:06:30

I now have a nental image of Corbyn roaring " You shall not Pass!"

rosesarered Wed 19-Aug-15 10:04:54

Power in the shadows? sounds a bit Lord Of The Rings.

Anniebach Wed 19-Aug-15 09:48:54

Eloethan, Hunt and Umana would not be in a shadow cabinet if Corbyn is party leader , they are too far to the right. The Blairites are the ones speaking out against Corbyn, they are the ones clinging to the past .

I am now concerned for my party , the danger is not from a few Savile row suited Blairites but from the power in the shadows

Ana Wed 19-Aug-15 09:42:49

That's just what the left-wing press want people to believe.

Ana Wed 19-Aug-15 09:41:18

Rubbish.

Anniebach Wed 19-Aug-15 09:39:19

The last election was flight on fear , if you vote labour Sturgeon will govern in Westminster , vote Milliband get sturgeon , vote labour and England will be run by Scotland , so it went on, racism and fear won the election

rosesarered Wed 19-Aug-15 09:27:21

The point is, if the country had wanted a no austerity policy, the Labour Party would have had a landslide victory at the last GE, and that didn't happen,so why would it at the next election, or the next?

rosesarered Wed 19-Aug-15 09:24:27

I always rest easy in my bed ( sleep is my best thing)grinreturning to it's roots means going 'more left' though, and although the Lib Dems have a more lefty leader now, they only have a few MP's in Parliament.

Luckygirl Wed 19-Aug-15 09:19:11

This country is extremely unlikely to get a far left government at any time in the foreseeable future, so I think you can rest easy in your bed rosesarered.

What we might get is a labour party gradually returning nearer to its roots and a shake-up in the Lib-Dems.

rosesarered Wed 19-Aug-15 09:16:11

Does the electorate in this country really want a far left Government, that is the question, Corbyn may or may not be ok in a shadow cabinet, but what happens in the next GE?Of course, if too many MP's refuse to work with him,or back his policies , then he will be out again.
After Mrs T, they thought the country needed the opposite ( Foot) and that didn't turn out well.

POGS Wed 19-Aug-15 00:46:35

DJ

Are Hodge and Thornberry Marxist enough?

Not sure Dromey is either given Harriet Harmans comments , they usually have a shared view when it comes to politics, or so it would seem.

POGS Wed 19-Aug-15 00:40:26

Eloethan

I couldn't agree more. Some people will find other commentators biased.

That's why I said :-

"A link is rarely unbiased/impartial on a political thread, whether it be left/right or center of the divide. Hence links on political threads are either speaking to the converted or are only one side of a discussion "

As for your comment re dismissing someone's view I said this of Murphy in my posts.:-

" I neither agree nor disagree with his points"

"He could be bag on the money"

As for sloppy ways of doing things, as you put it, well we will have to disagree as I obviously see things differently as to what constitutes sloppiness, not that I think that is a particularly good use of the word.

durhamjen Wed 19-Aug-15 00:32:27

I'd quite like to see Margaret Hodge, Jack Dromey and Emily Thornberry in the shadow cabinet, as well as Keir Starmer.

Anyone know who supported him in the leadership election anyway?
I mean properly, not just lending him their votes then regretting it.

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