Labour Leadership watch

Why should any member of this forum accept personal remarks that cannot be backed up Elegran? Can you imagine what we could descend to? Perhaps Gransnet itself would like to comment. It would have been very easy for rosesarered to explain why she thought I was being "rude" but she hasn't so I must assume she can't and that therefore there was no "rudeness" just an explanation. I don't believe that the odd remark like this, very personally directed, is acceptable but if that is how these discussions are to go then I have no problem with standing my ground.

It is simple - how was I rude? If I was I will be quite happy to apologise. If I wasn't ... rosesarered only needs to explain.

SOMEONE has to bury the hatchet, GG If everyone keeps digging it up to test how sharp the blade is, eventually blood will be spilt.

JC. I could never vote for someone who wears such ill fitting jackets.

petra

All it would take is an explanation - I am not saying I was not rude, just that I cannot see it - or an apology. Why suggest this to me Elegran; I did not make the original personal remark and all I asked for was an explanation as to why I was accused of rudeness.

I have not replied to one single post rosesarered has made for some time because of things like this. The first time I do - with what was a reasoned and applicable explanation - this happens. Are we to silence half the forum because the other half are prepared to make personal remarks - then not explain why - using this to bend reasoned argument and discussion.

It's boring. I'm bored ... but I am not rude and all that comment did was to allow rosesarered to avoid the discussion of labelling people by what is read on here.

Me neither Petra, especially as he wears a vest under his shirt as well.
Reminds me of Foot and his duffle coats.

However, I would overlook the jackets if I agreed with the message.

Noooooooo. Not a vest!!! My eyeballs are now seared with a vision of string vests and Y fronts.

.rosesarered, you memory has failed you, Michael did not wear a duffle coat

I think it was a donkey jacket, although I don't think any donkeys were harmed in it's production

Hopefully we can get back to some sanity and continue with a grownup discussion.

Has anyone heard what the latest is with regarding the vote? Is there a conclusion as to whether to continue? Hope so as I have already voted, as have !y family as far as I know.

It was not a donkey jacket

Not a duffle, not a donkey jacket. Could you tell us what is was rather than what it wasn't, please, ab? Just for my sanity IYSWIM.

Yes thatbags , it was a coat

Duffles and donkey jackets are coats too. However, never mind. I'll head googlewards for some old pics and see what kind of coat for myself since you are not in the mood to enlighten us.

A donkey duffle hybrid perhaps?

In this pic Michale Foot is wearing a donkey jacket and very good it looks too.

terribull

I thoight you were referring to the usual - he was wearing a duffle coat report which some of the press reported

Should we start a new thread "Michael Foot's jackets"? Yes very attractive thatbags, sartorial elegance at it's very best!

An excellent suggestion teriBull , keeps this thread free for those who are interested in the topic being discussed

Well - that was nice for a while - sensible and informative arguments; well thought out theories.

Now I am afraid of being shot in the crossfire, so, interesting as it was, after 9 pages I am not reading any more.

I was thinking about PQE today whilst driving to and from my mother -in- law's carehome ( She was actually talking sense for about half an hour).

I have just seen figures which say that hospital trusts are going to be £2 billion in the red this year. Corbyn thinks PQE could be used for hospitals and buying up PFI. That's an excellent idea.

One hospital in the country has bought back its PFI and that's Hexham hospital. What happened was that Northumberland County Council bought it back and Hexham is paying the council back but paying a lot less than under the PFI deal.. If that's not socialism to help the local population, I do not know what is.
I expect people to say that Labour started PFI; it's wrong but it doesn't matter. What matters is how to pay less. The government could do it, but it will not, as it is Tory friends who stand to lose the most from this idea of Corbyn's.

I can remember when at work looking at PFI contracts and being appalled at the amount of money the tax payer was being asked to pay over an enormous number of years - what a very good idea.

You're hardly going to get shot in the crossfire if you never post, AnnieGran...