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Nightowl, plenty of men in other countries have to do all sorts of things, that is no arguement at all. The pits were unproductive, not because there was no coal left in all of them, but costs were too high.I am sure you know that already. Yes, am still glad that todays youngsters and men don't have to do this dark and dangerous job in our country.

I know when the pits closed, roses. My father-in-law was a foreman for the NCB and British Coal.
Anniebach lives in one mining area; I live in another.
What are your credentials?

Because you referred to him as 'that immigrant'.

You just don't get it, do you, dj? I think you live in your own little world...

Ana, please read before you criticise; otherwise you just make yourself sound ridiculous.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT A MINE OPENING!

Boris Johnson is an immigrant. He was born in the US and lived there for five years, and has said he could actually be PM in this country and then President of the US.

Last year he said he was not going to give up his US citizenship. Then he sold a mansion in this country, and was sent a big tax bill from the US. He refused to pay it, saying it wasn't fair, but he still wanted to keep his US citizenship.
This year he quietly paid the bill, and then said he would relinquish his US citizenship. That was when he was thinking of taking over from Cameron when the Tories were supposed to lose the election. He is saying it's rather difficult to give up US citizenship, they put lots of obstacles in your way.
The reason he paid the tax bill was because he wanted to go to the US to plug his book about Churchill.

That's why I said that immigrant. I do not know what all the fuss is about.

You may be glad British men are no longer going down the mines rosesarered (although I agree with Anniebach that they may wish they still had the option), but that's not because the UK no longer needs the coal. Plenty of men in other countries still go down mines to produce our coal and perhaps face greater danger in countries where safety standards are poor. The UK's reliance on coal is the same now as 20 years ago. Remind me again why productive mines were closed by Thatcher.

Oh no, she's back but no answer to previous posts, just more guff about mine closures - typical!

Disappeared again...

I live in the Durham coalfields. UK Coal, a private coalmining company, has just been given permission to open a mine about two miles away from where I live. It's given all sorts of promises about jobs and reinstating the land in a few years time when it has finished opencasting.
Not one local job for ex-miners, but a handful of jobs for lorry drivers.
UK Coal has gone bust and is now subsidised by tax payers so it will not be in a position to reinstate the land. Again it will be taxpayers who will foot the bill, but I bet the shareholders make money out of it.

I know that AB. You have not been critcised, it was D jen and her post.

I do know when the pits closed rosesarered

.rosesarered, I spoke of the war dead and did not do so to argue , I just explained what was said by the person who was criticised for wearing the coat.

So many people enjoy living in the past, I always wonder why.

The pits closed a long time ago.

rosesarered, you may be glad men no longer have to go down the mines, it doesn't follow that the many unemployed men in South Wales would rather be without work than go doen the mine does it ? We don't know because they don't have a choice between benefits and a mine

Or refuse to justify derogatory terms such as 'that immigrant'

You always do this, dj, either disappear from a thread when anyone confronts you or try to put them down in your usual sarcastic way.

No I haven't.

Your post disgusted me DJ

Don't try to wriggle out of it by deflecting my disgust as a 'rant'

Think you've got the wrong word there, Ana.

The difference between us, Durhamjen, is that I say how thankful we are to the men who died in the war and did not use it as an argument to further my post. It must be cold up there, forever on the moral high ground as you continually are.

I've never heard of Conservativehome. Try South Wales Evening Post.

Just repeat what I wrote before...... Would anyone want those mines to be still open and young men spending most of their life in the dark?
I felt sorry at the time that so many were losing their livliehoods, in some areas there wasn't much other work. However, we are where we are and cannot continually live in the past.I am glad that nobody has to go down the mines thses days.

"Dead of the wars? What are you talking about AB?Oh, you mean that day at the Cenotaph? It certainly didn't bother me what he wore at any time, but at that time, and we are going back a bit, it was the custom ( still is) that everybody at that ceremony looked super smart. And he didn't. So the papers were always going to come down on him for that.
I think I probably speak for all the Gnetters on here, when I say we have plenty to thank all those who died fighting in the wars, for, not least our freedom of speech.And I speak for myself when I say that I don't need you to remind me.It'sit of fun about a coat!"

Quote from rosesarered for you, Anya. Just so you can rant at her too.