Cameron Shaming the Country

He averted a known terrorist planned attack. Would you be so complacent in your condemnation if he'd said - 'no, hang on I'll just dither a bit and waffle about 'peace talks' and the attack had been successfully carried out?

So we are not a democracy, then, roses. Only every five years when they want our votes and the rest of the time they can lie through their teeth.
Oh, hang on, they did that when they wanted our votes as well, didn't they?

Just like Blair said he knew there were weapons of mass destruction.
Cameron is not going to tell us the truth, is he? He has said he will not tell us everything. Why not if the threat has been averted?

Djen, I can't believe how naive your posts often are.

If he knew what was going to happen, why did he need to kill them? Why couldn't he have taken them prisoner and brought them to British justice instead of behaving like IS?

You'd apparently have been quite happy if the planned IS attacks had gone ahead, then dj?

It's naive to want to live in a civilised democracy, is it?
I'll carry on being naive, then.

There will be people 'in the field' ( in Syria) gathering intelligence on IS, especially about the British jihadis. not all facts can be out in the open.

'Taken them prisoner'? Are you serious?

Can we have some details on these planned IS attacks?
No, obviously not.

Your last post Djen ' why can't he take them prisoner'...... Hmmmn, I wonder why not?Think about it!

How would you suggest he take them prisoner, durhamjen?

If it were that easy we could round up a whole bunch of the blighters and bring them to justice.

Alleged attacks, we have one mans word they were to take place , the same man who failed the first time he tried to get the backing of parliament, now he the public supporting him - no proof as yet a good move to win the vote next time

Are there any TRULY democratic governments? I doubt it. When it comes to the protection of it's citizens, no government can afford the luxury of having all of the issues out in the open and subject to dissent. Sometimes, they just need to go ahead and get things sorted.

I applaud any PM of which ever political persuasion who has the balls to make tough and potentially unpopular decisions that may help to keep me and my family safe.

OMG Anniebach, if Martians landed and started a killing spree you would be posting that DC had arranged it all.

Exactly, Notso.

Yes that's the impression I get Ana, and when an attack does happen, as it surely will, I don't suppose there will be too much indignation, as long as protocol has been observed Still able to pontificate from their armchairs, safe in the knowledge that their local church hall/community centre is unlikely to be a target for ISIS!

Yes, of course DC organised the whole thing just to get votes in...erm..2020? That sounds likely.

"The Rev Nicholas Mercer, a former lieutenant colonel and army legal adviser, was not convinced. He said: “The strike by a UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] against a target in Syria is problematic legally. The strike took place in the airspace of a sovereign territory and the UK did not have permission to violate that airspace. Secondly, as this conflict is not an international armed conflict, the rules of war regarding combatants or civilians do not apply.

“Although not party to the specific intelligence, the grounds of national self-defence seem highly improbable given the age and background of this young man barely out of his teens. Only if he represented a threat to international peace and security by the scale of his proposed attacks could this attack begin to be justified. The fact that this matter reached the attorney general and the prime minister may suggest that other government lawyers were not prepared to sanction this strike.”"

(to Anniebach of course)

I think the pertinent words from that, Djen are 'although not party to the
Specific intelligence'. this Rev was not, as they say ' in the loop'.

Well, as has been asked before dj, would you be quite happy if the attack had gone ahead and many people in this country had been killed, just as long as DC had done nothing, even though he knew it would or was likely to happen?

God help us if JC ever becomes PM...

TerriBull, you are so wrong .

Ana, not votes for 2020, votes to join America in their bombing now , have we not learned what happens when we dance to america's tune ? Was Iraq and Afghanistan not enough for you ?

The trouble is that every one, archbishops, politicians, media people are so full of criticsm, but not one person comes up with any plausible idea or plan to even begin to help grasp this awful situation that the world is beginning to find itself in. When it's a question of national security I think that the prime minister has every right to make a decision without consulting parliament. This will undoubtedly be on the advice of the security services, and for heaven's sake these young men chose to become jihadists, they blatantly threatened all of us, and thank goodness we have a leader.who has the bottle to defend us. Having a chat with these people, if indeed you still had a head on your shoulders, is both naive and ridiculous, they are vile cruel monsters, and need wiping off the face of the earth. Ask the Yazidi people, I don't think they would have much faith in any chats.