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Cameron Shaming the Country

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Gracesgran Thu 03-Sept-15 13:09:05

This is Alex Salmond's comment on how Cameron is dealing with the migrant crisis.

www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/13642051.Alex_Salmond_says_David_Cameron_is__shaming_humanity__over_migration_crisis/

As shame in my countries response was what I have been feeling, I can only agree with him.

NfkDumpling Thu 10-Sept-15 22:05:28

grin

merlotgran Thu 10-Sept-15 22:21:19

I've just sent it to my two grandsons who are politics students. I deleted the question marks apart from the Australian bit? grin

jogginggirl Thu 10-Sept-15 22:30:54

Anya grin

Gracesgran Thu 10-Sept-15 22:39:06

We moved on several posts ago. Or thought we did.

One day you will "move on" rosesarered, but still issuing instructions about how we should post on this thread I see. Until you do ...

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 10-Sept-15 22:52:06

Not by John Cleese

rosequartz Thu 10-Sept-15 23:31:09

come on, Gracesgran, don't keep trying to have the last word.

(That's my prerogative)

Gracesgran Fri 11-Sept-15 00:41:16

I really do not need to be told what to do Rosequartz.

Ceesnan Fri 11-Sept-15 06:52:18

hmm

Anya Fri 11-Sept-15 06:57:20

Rose some people cannot move on. They just go round and round in circles.

Anya Fri 11-Sept-15 06:58:47

Oddly enoigh they are usually the first ones to tell other people what to do.

Gracesgran Fri 11-Sept-15 09:41:22

Rose some people cannot move on. They just go round and round in circles.

Anya, I objected to being told which words I may use and no, it doesn't compare to what the PM says. This is a forum and several of you have tried to tell me what and when I can post. You still have your little stick out and keep prodding. Leave me alone and I will stop telling you what I think of your behaviour towards another - equal - member of the forum.

rosequartz Fri 11-Sept-15 09:53:50

Oh, my mistake.
I was trying to appeal to someone's sense of humour and bring a seemingly endlessly ridiculous tit for tat situation to an end.
I forgot that not everyone has a gsoh.
Or even one at all.

Back to the OP.
I am not really interested in people's views when their only aim seems to be to make political capital out of other people's misery.
A more structured and well-thought approach is needed, especially when there is always far more to many heartrending stories than is first reported.

Before I am accused by the OP or any others of being hardhearted, I, like many others, have been following this situation for longer than just the present crisis. I know the situation in the camps is not ideal, but at least they are away from the hell that is Syria. Some refugees from other countries have been living in camps for 50 years. I am not saying that this is anything the world should be proud of, but just trying to put this into context.
The greedy human traffickers are to blame as much as anyone.
millionsoulsaware.org/

Anniebach Fri 11-Sept-15 10:27:18

Why do some here decide when discussions should move on, is it not a posters choice to move on, go around in circles or stick with what to them is inportant?

rosequartz Fri 11-Sept-15 10:45:38

confused

I didn't realise it was only the original poster who could pull a thread back away from ever-decreasing pointless circles.

Many apologies, as you were everyone.
Over and Out.

Gracesgran Fri 11-Sept-15 10:51:55

Couldn't agree more Annie.

RQ ending something means you stop doing it. If you choose to say nothing this silly conversation would stop. What you are actually doing is, at the very least, believing you can tell someone how the should post on an open forum or, at worst - and as several people are working together I would see this as the case - attempting to bully another member.

POGS Fri 11-Sept-15 11:11:27

People are not idiots just let them decide how they interpret posts and decide which poster suits them best. There will not be agreement so it is a waste of time trying to establish who is right or wrong.

Points were raised, questions were asked, questions were answered and yes it is going round in a circle .

Anniebach Fri 11-Sept-15 11:14:53

POGS, surely those who think they are going around in circles can choose to opt out ?

POGS Fri 11-Sept-15 11:16:50

Correct.

Anniebach Fri 11-Sept-15 11:20:10

Thank you POGS, all posters should be free to post - within rules - what and when they wish

POGS Fri 11-Sept-15 11:41:06

Your last post is the prerogative of ALL posters though AB and they should make their own decision as to how, when and where they wish to post. I don't think anybody has argued that point.

If you say something you have to accept that you will be challenged , 'own your own words', it does however sometimes come to a point when all points have been made, debated, questioned and answered and there is nothing more to offer on a personal basis other than going over old ground.

However others will interject because of the point you raised and it is their right to do as they deem fit in their response.

Anniebach Fri 11-Sept-15 12:04:12

Yes a right to say I do not wish to continue with this but why not politely ? Some here are very bossy

Gracesgran Fri 11-Sept-15 12:21:12

Your last post is the prerogative of ALL posters though AB and they should make their own decision as to how, when and where they wish to post. I don't think anybody has argued that point.

Everone can indeed make whatever posts they want to POGS. However they cannot expect other people to post or not post according to their instruction. When that becomes a group trying to do this I do see this as bullying and, as we know, the only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them. I am happy to continue this silly little part of the thread for as long as anyone else wants to. I may have breaks while real life interrupts but I will not be told what and when I may post. That is my only contention in this weird little discussion.

nigglynellie Fri 11-Sept-15 12:43:55

Is this the end of this 'discussion'?!

nigglynellie Fri 11-Sept-15 12:44:33

Just thought I'd as!!!!!

nigglynellie Fri 11-Sept-15 12:44:55

ask!