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Teetime Sat 12-Sept-15 11:45:58

Bugger it that's the next election lost.

soontobe Sat 12-Sept-15 14:42:30

You are right durhamjen. I didnt read it as carefully as I thought I did. Sorry both.

Gracesgran Sat 12-Sept-15 14:39:13

Trisher we have two 19 year olds (just off to uni) and a 17 year old in the close family and if anyone ever thought this generation was not political the must be blind and deaf. What they are though is not about to be bamboozled by politics speak. You are right he has enthused the young and given them hope that a political party speaks for them. I think he will appeal to many older, at one time labour party voters too.

durhamjen Sat 12-Sept-15 14:35:49

Of course, Annie, the working man hasn't suffered under the Tories, has he? He has prospered so much that there are more working families claiming benefits than ever.

durhamjen Sat 12-Sept-15 14:33:45

Trisher did not say that at all, soon.

Anniebach Sat 12-Sept-15 14:31:23

Gracesgran, he will bring a new openness to politics , so needed

durhamjen Sat 12-Sept-15 14:27:17

Yes, Gracesgran, that was the man and the interview. He's the one who espoused Green quantitative easing, and now people's QE, or Corbynomics, as it is derided.
We shall see how GO changes.

soontobe Sat 12-Sept-15 14:24:39

I cant get worked about about the vote. It is posts like trisher's that bother me though.
The left claiming they care, and no one else does. Awful really.

Gracesgran Sat 12-Sept-15 14:21:36

Yes Annie very much back to fear and scare tactics. It will have some effect but once people believe that there is something else rather than something worse we could see changes.

I have just heard one "insider" say that Jeremy may share his Prime Minister's questions with shadow cabinet members asking questions in their own area - how sensible is that smile

Gracesgran Sat 12-Sept-15 14:17:49

Joan that is an interesting view from afar and it's very heart-warming to hear what happened in Queensland. Once an idea starts to be believed it tends to have its own momentum.

You say "These days the world seems to be run by corporations and mega businesses, and privatised systems that used to be in public hands, with politicians doing what the mega powerful tell them to do. People are starting to get resentful."

I think one of things that the whole Labour Party must do is appeal to the middle income, middle class groups who have realised that being middle income can be swept away very quickly. Listening to the interviews I also think appealing to the huge growth of self-employed who do not have the same safety net would also be an area to address. There are many more self-employed who will not have a pension than those who will have huge ones.

Your post picks up on the realisation of many people that corporations and mega businesses are amoral in their actions and that these are for the survival of the business rather than of the people. It is people that matter. Whenever I read or watch a sci-fi programme about robots taking over the world and putting their existence ahead of human beings I think to myself that it has already happened; it is just that it was these very corporations and multinational businesses not robots.

rosesarered Sat 12-Sept-15 14:17:24

The assisted death of the Labour Party?

crun Sat 12-Sept-15 14:15:26

Is there any truth in the rumours that a lot of those who voted for Corbyn thought that they were in the assisted death vote?

Anniebach Sat 12-Sept-15 13:59:13

The young generation will now experience socialism v capitalism

trisher Sat 12-Sept-15 13:56:24

Teetime why is the next election lost? Corbyn has brought people back to the Labour Party and enthused young people who were regarded as disinterested in politics. If the party begins to show a real alternative message to the electorate, that a prosperous society does not require the suffering of the weak and the poor they will win votes.

Anniebach Sat 12-Sept-15 13:56:01

The Tories have started , fear helped them win the election so they giving it another go - our national security is now under threat , the working man will suffer , etc, etc, etc.

thatbags Sat 12-Sept-15 13:54:06

gg, please may I ask you not to make ignorant judgments about other people. I posted a joke -a bit of harmless nonsense- that I found while taking an interest in today's news. It is possible to be deeply interested as well as being able to see a light-hearted side of something.

At least, it is possible to some of us.

AND you don't know what kind of interest mine is either. You may think you do but you don't.

Anniebach Sat 12-Sept-15 13:52:42

rosesarered, the curse of the iPad plus cataracts do not make for successful posting

Joan Sat 12-Sept-15 13:45:46

Watching it all from afar, I have a feeling that people are looking for something different in politics, something less centrist and 'safe'. In fact, the post Thatcher/Reagan world has not been kind to many ordinary people. Safe for business perhaps, but.......

These days world seems to be run by corporations and mega businesses, and privatised systems that used to be in public hands, with politicians doing what the mega powerful tell them to do. People are starting to get resentful.

Where I live in Queensland Australia they elected a Tory State government with a massive majority about 3 years ago. They went power mad, especially as this state does not have an upper house, and the Labour opposition was reduced to a mere rump. It was impossible for Labour to get back - the numbers were appalling. I said they would, but I was laughed at.

But they did. Just. And they are reversing the right wing damage that was done.

Strange and unpredictable things happen in politics.

We are living in interesting times.

rosesarered Sat 12-Sept-15 13:39:56

You can disable predictive text, probably a good idea.

rosesarered Sat 12-Sept-15 13:38:08

The curse of the iPad eh Anniebach? I could sometimes throw mine out of the window.

Anniebach Sat 12-Sept-15 13:33:27

Reeves and Hunt are returning to the back branches , that's three and as expected

rosesarered Sat 12-Sept-15 13:28:25

grin

Gracesgran Sat 12-Sept-15 13:26:19

I think everyone on this forum has the ability , intelligence and sense of humour to enjoy a joke rosequartz, not just a select few ,just difference senses of humour

It would certainly be good if the so called joke was the level of opposition from those who do not agree with what Jeremy Corbyn stands for Annie. No problem at the next election if that was the case. You have to ask why these sort of posts are made on a "News and Politics" thread and I think ignoring them is probably best way to replysmile - little things, etc.

rosequartz Sat 12-Sept-15 13:25:56

those dratted ??? again!

rosequartz Sat 12-Sept-15 13:25:20

Would things have turned out differently if Harriet Harman had stood for the leadership?
Yes, I realise we will never know.
However, like her or loathe her it is sad to see her go from the front benches
Her parting shot:
After 28 years on the front-bench, I feel that its now time for others to take it forward,?? she said. It was quite surprising to discover I??m not possibly old enough or posh enough to be the frontrunner of this leadership election.

rosesarered Sat 12-Sept-15 13:23:46

Alea, my DS did just that, he will be happy to collect his winnings! It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good, as they say.smile

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