Future of Monarchies in the 21st Century

There's never been so much as a whisper in 68 years! Prince Phillip maybe in the early days, but who knows?! Unless someone has catagoric proof, then I for one, don't believe a word of it.

Anya . Perhaps Annie has mixed up the Queen and Princess Margaret? But I know she has a secret source of gossip information about the royals. She's referred to it before.

That's a historical fact - I saw it on Black Adder.

Perhaps we're talking about Elizabeth 1 - that would make more sense?

Of course it could be that Anniebach' like me at one time, has forgotten where she heard this juicy piece of gossip

Alleged by whom?

Well, I haven't even heard about any alleged affairs either.

POGS,this poster didn't state the queens affairs but alleged affairs

If she did have any, then she must have managed them very discreetly if there is no evidence after all this time, and no-one prepared to kiss and tell. Her choice of paramour must have been far better than most royals who stray from the narrow path of fidelity.

I am intrigued now.

Does anybody know of the 'affairs' the Queen is said to have had?

I have never heard a muttering but a poster must have information or why else state it.

Anniebach

What affairs has the Queen had ?

Anniebach You're the fount of all knowledge where the Royal Family is concerned so you must surely know all about the Queen's alleged affairs.

grumpa, historians never tire of writing about alleged affairs do they?

Do tell us about the Queen's alleged affairs, Anniebach; I am obviously missing out on something. And I hope historians in the future will have better things to do than pore pruriently over the alleged affairs of someone who had no actual power over anyone.

You can't compare the Cromwellian period with today. Different times, different rules but it did give a kick start to the democracy we operate under today.

'One of the ruins that Cromwell knocked abaht a bit' remember that lovely old song?

Oliver Cromwell blasted our lovely castle to bits.

I agree apricot, we are only custodians. It is not up to us to decide in one particular generation what is important or not about the heritage of our country.

I used to be a republican but decided that neither we nor people to come have any right to destroy our country's heritage.
How do we feel about Oliver Cromwell vandalising our beautiful churches, or Isis blowing up ancient temples because they, living at that moment, didn't like them?
The monarchy is a big part of our history which we have a duty to pass on. It doesn't matter a damn what any individual monarch does, they are only links in a very long chain.

Not one of us will be alive when the truth of the queens alleged affairs will be openly discussed by historians

If there was a referendum I would vote to abolish the monarchy , I have no great admiration for the queen , yes she has always been dignified in public, never rocks the boat and receives a life of luxury for herself , her family and extended family in return , she has never given an interview, we only know what the press and royal biographers tell us.

Well, we managed not to have any more civil wars.

Of course, the monarchy was got rid of briefly here in the 1640's, but was restored[1662?]
That period of history was pretty horrendous.
Are we any more civilised nowadays?

(I mean, away from Gransnet in RL )

If you remove the need for "huge" Buck House and Windsor Castle (Holyrood is not that big) you are still left with a palace and a castle to be maintained at the taxpayer's expense less entry fees that are already charged. You also need somewhere for state banquets, etc.

By all means trim the Royal Family, but don't expect to make huge savings on the upkeep of Grade 1 listed buildings.

I agree about the hangers on, only the monarch, consort and heir should be kept by the state, all others in the family made to work for a living like the rest of us. Also no title of Queen to a male monarch's wife, only Queen if she is the reigning monarch.
This reduced state would remove all the need for all those huge royal residences.

yup, plenty of rooms there!

Flipping heck have you seen the Elysée Palace and the Kremlin.