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Wearing an armband as well. Guess what that made me think of.

Funerals?

somebody will be wheeling out the 'First they came for'........ poem any minute now.

some people would find your remark in rather poor taste rose Include me in that.

whitewave, you have no idea how many times that poem is used on this forum to further somebody's argument.I have read it at least four times in the last year [just that first line in three cases and the full poem once.]

That doesn't mitigate your remark.

I don't need to mitigate it. Lighten up.

My was actually in response to roses' funeral post, but it's true that that poem does get trotted out time and time again to indicate the poster's moral superiority to those they're criticising.

It's becoming as much of a cliché as 'calm down dear'.

Exactly. Nobody has used the poem as yet, but I had an idea that shortly they may be doing.

This shows just how unpolitical and indeed how uneducated
I am as I have never heard that before and had to Google it. What that says about me I have no idea.

annsixty

It says you are probably the sanest person on GN

The constant use of the poem does not devalue its truth. In denigrating its use rose you reveal a real lack of understanding and compassion. And I would suggest your comment is disrespectful to all the people who suffered in concentration camps who are remembered in the poem.

And I would suggest, Trisher, that your remark is utter nonsense.

I denigrate it's use because it's a serious poem and is mis-used on here
Usually on the subject of politics ( because ,the Conservatives are Nazi's!)but not always, as I have seen it used on other threads where you would never expect it.don't lets get into all the empathy, care and compassion high horse stuff.

I agree that it is over-used. I am also reminded of a saying that once an argument starts to drag in a comparison to Nazis, that debate has lost its way.

Certainly we need to look out for everyone, but seeing Hitler or Goebbels under every bed is not helpful.

rose I apologise I think I mis-understood your post. I think it is the "wheeling out" that disturbed me. I agree that it may be overused but do think that one should be careful and make clear that it is not the ideas in the poem that are being condemned, but the people who are using them for their own ends.

Agreed, Trisher.

Another anti-democratic point.
I read that the government and the housing associations are going to come to an agreement about the sell-off of housing association houses so it does not need to go back to the commons and lords to be voted on.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/single-mum-benefits-stopped-because-6543849?ICID=FB_mirror_main

She has a new man in her life.
I can't decide whether it's a spoof or not.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/10-worst-deprived-places-england-6548105

Where does your postcode fit on this list?

It looks like I read the Mirror now, but I don't.

Just to even things up, here's another joke from Cameron.

www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/30/david-cameron-tax-evasion-british-overseas-territories

Does anyone on here live in a Housing Association house, or know anyone who does?

www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/24/housing-associations-agree-right-to-buy-deal-with-government

My parents used to. They had already owned a house before that.
Paying rent to a housing association meant that they did not have the worry of repairs and redecoration. They did not mind paying rent.

Many housing associations are against this idea. In fact if the government gets its way, there will be very few left.

Just put my postcode into the deprivation index - what a joke! My code comes up very low down on the scale (only about a quarter of the way along the line) and the analysis shows that it is at rock bottom on environment and crime.

Just for the record I am sitting here gazing out on the most incredible view of the Welsh hills, surrounded by green fields and autumn trees in all their glory, and listening to the evening birdsong.

We have a local police person (not sure what they call themselves now) who sends us a monthly email record of crimes in the locality (radius of about 15 miles) and there are usually about 8 incidents in that area, and only ever one in this village about a year ago (theft of oil from a farm).

How wrong can they be!?