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Bennan Fri 18-Sept-15 13:17:48

Why does the leader of the SNP not realise that the split vote in favour of remaining in the Union does not mean that we want another referendum? We don't want the hassle, the hatred, the awful scenes in the streets of two of our major cities again. It was not the most edifying period of our history and she needs to stop deflecting attention from the rather mediocre job she and her party are making of government.

varian Sun 20-Sept-15 16:22:02

The SNP have only one item on their agenda - they are separatists who want to destroy the United Kingdom.

They should never have been allowed to choose the date for the referendum (Bannockburn anniversary year, Commonwealth Games in Glasgow) or set the question. If the question had been "should Scotland remain part of the UK?" I believe the majority in favour of the Union would have been at least 75%, rather that 55%. It is always easier to campaign for "YES" than "NO".

Recently the government announced that in the Euro referendum the question would be " Should the UK remain in the EU?" but they have been told by the Electoral Reform Society that a YES/NO question cannot be allowed as it gives too much of an advantage to "YES". Where were the Electoral Reform Society last year when we needed them?

HirplesWithHaggis Sun 20-Sept-15 16:57:17

The Electoral Commission suggested the indyref wording.

(I don't think you mean the Electoral Reform Society, they campaign for change in the way we elect our politicians and for increased democracy in the UK.)

FarNorth Sun 20-Sept-15 18:22:53

Alex Salmond wanted to include the option of devo max, increased responsibility and power for the Scottish government, on the ballot paper. The UK government refused to agree to that and so we had to have the yes/no stand-off.

varian Mon 21-Sept-15 10:21:50

Sorry, I meant the Electoral Commission. They allowed the SNP to frame the question to give themselves the "YES" advantage. Yet in spite of this the clear majority of those Scots who were able to vote rejected separatism. Scots like me, who were disenfranchised because we happened to be living in another part of our country, heaved a huge sigh of relief and that should have been the matter settled - as Alex Salmond promised "for a generation or possibly for a lifetime".

The SNP have for the last four years been bankrolled by the people who won £160m on the Eurolottery, which helps them to keep up the constant pressure for another referendum and the media keep giving them the oxygen of publicity.

The Scots who voted for so-called "independence" (dependant on the Bank of England allowing continued use of the pound and the EU allowing continued membership) were conned and should now be grateful that the 55% prevented them from making a disastrous mistake which they would already be regretting as the fail in the oil price would have blown a £7bn hole in their budget.

The SNP should be concentrating on trying to improve their abysmal performance as the Scottish government. I spend a lot of time in Scotland, working there and meeting friends and relations. They point out the disgraceful decline in Scottish education. Scottish schoolchildren used to be high up in international comparison tables of numeracy and literacy, but have fallen so low that the SNP has now decided to remove Scotland from the league tables. There is outrage at SNP moves to control the universities and to forbid students at the ancient universities from freely electing rectors. They have centralised the police service (control freakery gone mad) and the NHS is in a dire state. However badly they perform, they still manage to blame it all on "Westminster". No wonder some English people are fed up with it all.