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Jeremy Corbyn Elected

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rosequartz Sun 20-Sept-15 20:42:59

As jinglbellsfrocks had the last word in the last thread about Jermy Corbyn, I am starting a new one.

Do you think that the election of Jeremy Corbyn has scuppered Labour's chances of winning the next election or has it revitalised the party?

durhamjen Mon 21-Sept-15 21:14:59

Yes, that's what I meant, bags. Thanks.

thatbags Mon 21-Sept-15 21:09:27

Your post seems to imply that building nuclear power stations is meant to reduce our energy consumption, dj, except that I doubt it is meant to mean that. Did you mean why isn't the £2billion used to find ways to reduce our energy consumption instead of spending it on building nuclear power stations?

durhamjen Mon 21-Sept-15 20:38:58

Cheung Kong also owns utilities in Canada and Australia, including gas pipelines.

Why is China going to build nuclear power stations here by being given £2 billion of government guarantees? What is that if not QE. If China pulls out, and it is having problems with the economy at the moment, we pick up the tab. Why could we not do the same with British or European companies?
Why could that £2 billion not be used for other ways to reduce our energy consumption?

durhamjen Mon 21-Sept-15 20:32:53

Interesting chart, Eloethan. Nestle has always been a problem for me. It was easier when I used to buy from Suma Wholefoods because they used to do the research for me.

Roseq, does it matter if it happens in other countries?
I do not like the idea of China owning so much of our infrastructure when we should own it and put the profits back into it.
I resent the fact that the profits from my water company go into an account in the Cayman Islands where they do not pay tax back to HMRC, and are not used to repair and replace the pipes.

Eloethan Mon 21-Sept-15 20:23:03

On the subject 9f who owns what, this is quite interesting:

www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-24/10-corporations-control-almost-everything-you-buy

rosequartz Mon 21-Sept-15 19:57:54

There's been quite a bit in Private Eye recently about Chinese investment

It's not just here, though, is it.

www.thechinastory.org/2015/02/china-matters-in-the-south-pacific/

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 21-Sept-15 15:51:33

jing Superdrug is a tiny spot owned by Cheong Kong. Company of a company of a company kind of thing.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 21-Sept-15 15:49:44

jen I'd heard of Cheong Kong because of Private Eye, but wouldn't have remembered the guy's name. There's been quite a bit in Private Eye recently about Chinese investment. One piece that sticks in my mind is to do with land development in central London and how the developer's needs are being agreed to because of the vast sums of money involved.

Elegran Mon 21-Sept-15 15:32:40

If he owned it, he would make sure that there was a link by which he could work the controls. I think most utilities are controlled more by electronic signals than by damn great switch levers these days anyway.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 21-Sept-15 15:30:20

Who owns Superdrug?

durhamjen Mon 21-Sept-15 15:29:47

Had you heard about him until I mentioned him on here, Wilma?

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 21-Sept-15 15:29:15

If there was a link.

Elegran Mon 21-Sept-15 15:29:02

The pipeline bringing North Sea Oil ashore at St Fergus and across Scotland to Grangemouth was controlled at multiple points along it from one control centre. That was all pre-internet by shared signals down a telephone line (DH was part of the design team for it) but it would be very simple these days to do the whole thing by w-fi remote control.

durhamjen Mon 21-Sept-15 15:28:24

He also owns gas pipelines.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 21-Sept-15 15:28:15

I haven't read your link dj.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 21-Sept-15 15:24:28

jen he owns Superdrug! shock He's a scary guy - the ones who live simple lives but are uber-rich are suspicious to me. My alarm bells are ringing.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 21-Sept-15 15:18:26

Harummf. No I don't think it will be operated from China using a big stick with a finger on the end, but it will possible to operate or control from China. WiFi or satellite technology kind of thing, but sophisticated.

rosequartz Mon 21-Sept-15 15:13:14

You never know.
Systems can be operated by remote control from anywhere in the world.
(as long as you can get a signal, that is, which is not always possible round here grin)

durhamjen Mon 21-Sept-15 15:13:00

I've always maintained that having nuclear weapons is useless because we will never use them and any foreign country wanting to blow us up just needs to fly planes into our nuclear power stations.

I think you need to read a bit more carefully, jungl. He doesn't own a few bricks; he owns 100% of many companies, even though he pretends not to, as he does it in different names.

whitewave Mon 21-Sept-15 15:09:06

Still a grin to that.

It's pouring with rain here, you can tell I'm stuck in the house

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 21-Sept-15 15:06:57

You think they will operate it from China? With a big control panel pointing this way?

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 21-Sept-15 15:00:44

I'll leave you to it.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 21-Sept-15 15:00:10

The technology will mean that remote control will be possible and perhaps the parts for maintenance will become unavailable. There may be other possibilities.

granjura Mon 21-Sept-15 14:59:46

OMG !

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 21-Sept-15 14:58:39

sorry to trivialise. Again.