Jeremy Corbyn Elected

Do you think the Chinese would come over and take a few lumps of concrete out of Hinkley Point. (This bit is ours and we're having it back!)

But..... we're not talking about pipelines. These things are situated in this country. How could they disrupt supplies?

jingle I am worried that if we fall out with the countries, they can control supply. Just like Putin and the gas pipe line.

jen just Googled him - interesting man. Not reassuring in any way. Thinking again about moving to the Outer Hebrides to hide.

If these people pull out it would highly likely they would see their investment go down the pan. It's in their interests for things to work. So what exactly are you worried about?

Hugely worrying indeed- and the STATE is actually US.

I don't have a problem with foreign business investment, but it makes me very uneasy if we're not the ones in control. Being held hostage at some point seems inevitable and technology makes this easy to accomplish. The announcement about the Chinese money secured for helping to build Hinkley Point is very unsettling for me, like another step in the wrong direction. Not that I know what the right direction is, just that this one is wrong.

Granjura, have you ever heard of Cheung Kong?
I heard of it when I was trying to find out who owned Northumbrian Water.
It's Cheung Kong, a Chinese billionaire who makes his money by buying and selling big infrastructure companies.

UK Power Networks produces and distributes electricity in the South East, Eastern UK and London.
It is owned 40% by Cheung Kong, 40% by Power Assets Holdings and 20% by Li Ka Shing. Except that Li Ka Shing is the owner of the other two companies, so he owns 100% of that as well.
He also owns Wales and West Utilities, 50% of Seabank Power Station, and Eversholt Rail Group which provides rolling stock for the rail companies.

Anyone happy at one man owning all this instead of the state?

Hello jing Yes he may well have to compromise, we shall just have to wait and see what the coming debates produce.

Correction 'I suppose we could live without public transport somehow'

and an addition to the 3 options is obviously

'sigh'

I'd say it is even much more worrying to think that foreign companies own absolutely essential and vital services, like water and electricity and gas- and could totally hold us to ransom if they ever wished to. I suppose we 'live' without public transport, somehow - although since other foreign company own the oil and petrol- we would truly be up the proverbial creek - especially as a huge amount of our food stuffs come from abroad and our farming is being run down. In a crisis ....?!?!?!

Her is going to have change his mind over leaving Nato and ditching Trident whitewave. If he wants to keep that job.

We need investment durhamjen.

Are you saying it's not alright for foreign governments to own our railways,then, Ana?

Sigh...

'Questioning tactics' ? Not quite sure what else there is to do if anyone makes a really vague and short statement about something, without any explanation of what was meant.

Thinking about it, there seems to be only 3 possible options, ignore (which may be considered rude or unfair- we've discussed this before, remember the Clan Bear discussions about ignoring being a tactic in early man civilisations as a punishment) question (which may be seen as rude or unfair) or make assumptions depending on context of the rest of the discussion (which ... ditto).

Or?

It happens to a lot of (most?) politicians. What seems a clear-cut way forward, viewed from the back rows of the opposition benches, becomes a slalom course for a leader when the whole of the MP's, the party, and the electorate, have to be behind him/her to achieve their aim of getting a majority in the House and actually altering the course of a whole country. There are many shades of grey between black and white.

Which rather means, to me anyway, that his previous views have been rather a waste of time. To him and to us.

When he could actaully try and push his actual views through, he finds he cant.

One of the main criticisms of politicians is that they don't stick to their promises or principles. Quite often I expect this is because they find they have to compromise in order to achieve anything at all. Corbyn hasn't had to do this yet so I expect he's on a steep learning curve, especially if he doesn't want the Labour Party to have split factions or to lose good politicians. As elegran says, it's too early to know what he's capable of as a leader of one of the main political parties in Britain. I don't think it's too early to say that if he truly believes in democracy, he's going to have to compromise on quite a lot of things if he wants the party to win in elections.

My post crossed with your previous one, Ana

I would have done if Eloethan hadn't made her 'snippy' comment.

I'll leave durhamjen to her interrogation tactics if she really wants to continue appearing foolish.

The meat has been completely gnawed from that bone until no-one really cares to chew it any more.

Why not leave it and get on with discussing Corbyn?

This was your question:

'Can you explain why it's okay for foreign government railway companies to own railways in Britain but not our own government?'

At no point had I said I thought that. You assumed that I must think that (as is your wont).

Perhaps you could point out where I actually said I believed that, as someone asked you to previously.

No, Ana, you did not tell me what you did mean. You just told me I was wrong in my assumptions, as you are still doing.
Please can you tell me what you did mean.

We've been through all this on the other thread. And quite a few people commented that you were being unreasonable, so I don't think it's me who's being silly.