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Jeremy Corbyn Elected

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rosequartz Sun 20-Sept-15 20:42:59

As jinglbellsfrocks had the last word in the last thread about Jermy Corbyn, I am starting a new one.

Do you think that the election of Jeremy Corbyn has scuppered Labour's chances of winning the next election or has it revitalised the party?

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 20:35:01

rosesarered, your post not worthy of a discussion

rosesarered Fri 02-Oct-15 20:14:59

Witnessed brutality? That's what you see when you hang out with IS.
I doubt if one in a hundred on the fox protests has witnessed anything at all.

thatbags Fri 02-Oct-15 20:07:10

I do not believe that 'most' of the people who have been at protests about fox hunting have "witnessed brutality" as in seen hounds killing a fox. Some have, I daresay, but not most, not even half.

POGS Fri 02-Oct-15 18:32:50

'Absolutely nothing to fear or feel uneasy about.'

That would depened on which side of 'some' protests you find yourself on.!!!!!

Peaceful protests that are quickly turned into intimidation and harrassment are a major issue. Nobody knows until the protest finishes how peaceful a protest managed to be.

The recent 'protest' at the cafe in London is a good example. Protesters didn't give one iota of compassion nor had any intention of protesting peacefully. If they had they would not have subjected families with children to their 'brand' of of intimidation.

Ana Fri 02-Oct-15 18:29:05

Who?

whitewave Fri 02-Oct-15 18:23:57

Well if you haven't been on a march then how can you comment?

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 18:23:33

There are different reasons to protest Ana, CND MARCHES, peace marches , the anti apartheid protests etc were peaceful. Can't say the same of the fox hunting protests but difficult to remain calm when you witness brutality

Ana Fri 02-Oct-15 18:23:16

So what are they going to do? Just stand there, looking joyful and peaceable? Really?

whitewave Fri 02-Oct-15 18:21:09

ana You misunderstand protest, and are in danger of believing the media hype. There will always be some who are disruptive, look at the idiots who broke into the Commons, but 99% of those on the protest will have nothing but peace in mind.

soontobe Fri 02-Oct-15 18:17:05

Yes Ana.

whitewave Fri 02-Oct-15 18:16:16

Yes they are fun but with a serious intent.

I remember one march toddling along, and behind me was Vanessa Redgrave and other famous people I can't remember. They are uplifting and supportive when you sometimes think you are alone in your beliefs. Talking to people with the same ideology/beliefs raises your spirits and helps you reinforce your principles.

Absolutely nothing to fear or feel uneasy about.

Ana Fri 02-Oct-15 18:15:58

It comes across as more like anger though when disruptive protests are planned.

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 18:14:06

soon, when you have a large number of people gathered to express their shared belief in bettering the world there just has to be joy

Ana Fri 02-Oct-15 18:10:36

Perhaps sontobe is returning to the subject of the OP, and wondering whether the people involved in the proposed demonstrations during the Tory Party conference are feeling fearful and uneasy about the way the country's being run?

soontobe Fri 02-Oct-15 18:08:09

That makes it sound like they are a jolly.

No, I havent been on one.

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 18:05:23

.whitewave, we could have been on the same marches .

Soon, I don't see the link between nuclear warfare and welfare cuts

whitewave Fri 02-Oct-15 18:00:23

Have you ever been on a march soon? I regularly marched with the CND when young, and the mood was always joyful and optimistic! I can't think that it has changed all that much.

soontobe Fri 02-Oct-15 17:54:56

If people on here say that they dont feel it, I will take their word for it.

What is the emotion of people who are planning to march at the Tory conference? If they dont feel uneasy or fearful?

Riverwalk Fri 02-Oct-15 17:24:38

There seems to be an immense amount of fear and unease about with some people

Which people?

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 17:21:00

Not among the people I know soon

soontobe Fri 02-Oct-15 17:16:04

There seems to be an immense amount of fear and unease about with some people.

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 16:46:36

I didn't say he would Ana, I did say even he didn't because he was rather gung-ho and didn't seem a man given to deep thought

Ana Fri 02-Oct-15 16:38:58

Why would Bush have ordered a nuclear attack because of 9/11?

Anniebach Fri 02-Oct-15 16:33:59

Even George W Bush didn't give the order after 9/11, worrying if Donald Trump was to become president though

Gracesgran Fri 02-Oct-15 15:46:11

They are not automatic. It needs two keys in parts of the sub that are well separated; that is keys put in by people. Facts are quite important when looking at this mariann

Don't worry about "some gung-ho politician" pushing a button trisher, there isn't one. However someone has to give the order and I do wonder if we really want the person who could, running our country.