And so it begins.

I don't think anything is unpleasant, whitewave, ( on here) just a realistic look at how difficult many aspects of Western life will be for Syrian Muslims,
As they know so little about our way of life.

Whitewave. No more unpleasant than what these victims are going through.
Are these stories bursting a few bubbles Re these poor homeless men looking for a new life.
Roses: totally agree Re the Hindu people.

The things I feared are actually being reported, it has always been a worry to me that so many young men are being forced to live in close proximity.
If refugees want to live in another country they are going to have to accept a way of life that is different to their culture. The majority should not have to change to placate the minority.

So rapes are happening in Calais, four British girls endured sexual attacks last week in one city in this country . Three women are killed by domestic abuse in this country weekly , this is not paradise

A mixing of cultures and religions is always going to be a challenge. The sheer volume of refugees is in itself a problem. I do not know what the answer is - there will always be people who wish to exploit others' generosity, but I believe they are in the minority. What is needed is a co-ordinated international response (sadly lacking at the moment) so that those in genuine need are helped and given guidance on the culture into which they are moving. The help of those muslems who are already integrated in western countries should be sought.

Annie why are you trying to minimise these problems?

if I wanted a right wing paper I would have tbought the telegraph was preferable it is probably, but my arms are not long enough.

Whatever is left on the stand in Waitrose if I go there.

Just pointing out there is good and bad in everything.

Our Hindu neighbours did not get on with our Muslim neighbours, whether that was personal, cultural, religious or what I don't know and didn't ask.
We got on with both lots very well.
All were lovely people.

So rapes are happening in Calais
Annie I can't think you meant your post to come over as it sounds

I don't consider speaking of sexual attacks or domestic abuse in this country is trying to minimise any problems, just saying we have problems too but some think we are so crime free

No country is crime free so why would anyone think we are.

The Daily Mail did not put the murderers of Stephen Lawrence behind bars , the parents of Stephen did and they were able to start the fight with support of the Unions, I was at the conference when Mr Lawrence came to make a speech expressing their gratitude the mail did print photographs of the ones found not guilty and branded them murderers , this was a rare front page of honour and truth from that paper

That's fine then Annie. Obviously there's nothing to fear from these hundreds of thousands of young muslim men. Note to self-must get grip. Wish there was an irony emoticon!

Yes, as we're such a crime-ridden nation anyway a hefty dollop of more won't matter...it would be churlish to even mention the possibility

We do pander to people of other cultures too much. I was disgusted to hear this morning that a member of the RAF attending A&E in uniform was asked to move out of sight of other patients in the waiting room because "people of other cultures use the area and might be offended"! The hospital has since apologised. I have to say this. Whose bloody country is it?

Can this really be true, Greyduster? If so it is quite unbelievable!If I had been that man in uniform I would not have ' gone gently into that...' Etc

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249717/Hospital-told-RAF-sergeant-leave-waiting-room-case-uniform-upset-patients.html

And before anyone starts banging on about the DM I heard it on the breakfast news this morning.

Speechless!

Military personnel no longer wear uniform when out and about for their own security so the hospital would have saved themselved a lot of criticism if they'd used that as the reason for asking him to move out of the main A&E waiting room.

Did some of you not hear that about the RAF chap? For their sake, in that A&E dept. it was a blessing that I wasn't there. You have no idea how angry I am. And the powers that be wonder how/why far right organisations rise in popularity.

Yes should the poor chap injured while working rush back to barracks and change before being taken to hospital?!

I feel so sad and angry about this.

These women - and children- have fled to find sanctuary, some from bombs, violence and many from sexual violence.
If the West can't protect them after their efforts to get here what hope is there?

If the attitude is that rape happens anyway what hope is there?

The EU should be getting to grips with this as a matter of urgency and sorting out genuine refugees and women and children in need of urgent help and giving them a safe haven.

Merlotgran, I see Army and RAF personnel in uniform all the time here, especially in supermarkets.

I think it's only police that have to change when going off duty.

Rosequartz. This is what happens when the heart rules the head. Many of the agencies knew that this was going to happen, ie, 10s of 1,000s of people coming from God knows where and no plan of action.
All the boats should have been stopped months ago and much more money put into the camps.
I don't know if any of you have been reading about the same amount of people (maybe more) moving up through Africa.
All these people will be grouping on the Med coast ready for next spring when the weather gets better. And once again it'll be, who'd thought it.