Labour MPs

Well done him!

I read a newspaper with my grandson today, and he wrote down what Corbyn was supposed to be going to say in his speech. We made a long list. Then we watched the speech and he ticked off what had been said.
Much was accurate, but other things had been made up.

Corbyn is laying out his stall for both Labour Party and country. It was like a breath of fresh air.

The Blairites have had their day, and there seems to be sour grapes amongst some of them. However, by no means all of the right wing of the party are refusing to cooperate, and are clearly prepared to listen and cooperate with their new leader.
Andrew Neil has wheeled in 2 Blairites over the past 2 days. Yesterday (can't remember his name) he spoke such a lot of embarrassing rubbish, I felt quite hot. Haven't listened to today's effort yet, but given his past it doesn't take much guesswork as to what he will twitter about - hey ho such is life.

I think he has as much chance as any other politician who has had greatness suddenly thrust upon him. Why wouldn't he? Of course there are people arguing against him. That's good. It shows that we really do have a democracy where people can say what they think and argue with absolutely everyone and everything if they so wish. Besides, silencing the arguments (or complaints or negative predictions or whatever you want to call them) wouldn't do a scrap of good. He and his supporters can still plod on with what they want to say and do.

What about the former shadow cabinet member quoted in the i today who said, "We've got to go away and come up with some decent policies for when he fails." ? What should he do? He does not appear to be giving Corbyn the benefit of the doubt.

I thought Corbyn's speech today was brilliant, as did most of the members of the audience, but the person on the Andrew Neill programme said he started with low expectations and they got lower. He had been Blair's spin doctor.
What chance does Corbyn have with people like him still being used as a pundit?

I don't agree with your thoughts on this durhamjen. I didn't vote for jc and my neither did my constituency but we'll support him because of the strength of his mandate. I don't like the way some Blairites are attempting to stir dissent and I think Mandelson is really showing his Machiavelien tendencies, loathsome individual. As others have said, jeremy doesn't have a track record of blind support of previous labour leaders and I don't suppose he expects it.

It's early days, give them a chance. They have a lot of thinking to do and probably wounds to lick.

The Tories were thrilled with their result. Remind me of the % they achieved?

I like much of what Corbyn stands for but don't treat it as a religion , what angers me is the blairites still relying on spin . Why do they need a chance to to find out what party members are asking for? They could try listening , they could give this courtesy to members not tell us we need a heart transplant etc. Many are fed up of spin, the party has always openly disagreed on some policies , then we got Blair and secrecy, policies settled by a few and given to the party, everyone on message .

So many young delegates spoke yesterday which was great. I don't think Corbyn will win over the blue parts of England but we need to remember the thousands who didn't vote at the election and many said - why bother they are all the same.

Am ( almost) speechless at the content of the OP!
Democracy in action?

Hardly an overwhelming majority of the Labour Party whitewave. There were 554,272 members eligible to vote, 422,871 did so and Corbyn won with 251,417 votes. Therefore less than half of the eligible members voted for him to be their leader.

That's what I thought whitewave and in 18 months time it will be reasonable to ask them to put up or shut up.

In 18 months time all Labour MPs are up for reselection - rules. Also the boundary changes will see a lot of MPs loosing their jobs

The more I think about it the more I feel that those who like what Corbyn stands for mustn't treat it like a religion. Going back to the "if you are not my friend you are my enemy" seems so far from what he has been saying.

Those who feel this is really wrong for the party surely need time to find a way forward for them. We live, as has been said, in interesting times, and I think people must be given a chance to find out what this means to them.

It's probably possible for it to be a "bi" election Anya

A stint in the gulags possibly for dissenters! Is this what the left means by progressive politics, just wondering!

By-election

And then what? Hold a bi-election?

What is different this time around is that JC has been elected by an overwhelming majority of the Labour Party. Now given that they are supporters of democracy, then those MPs criticising JC should have at the absolute minimum accept the result and take part in the future debates over Labour Policy, but always bearing in mind the mandate given to JC.

bags your post if 6:47 is spot on.

Whatever is going to play out now in the Labour Party, will do so in time, it ain't going to be sorted in the next half hour.

Your OP is really quite amusing, dj.

Corbyn as a backbencher wasn't a great supporter of the Labour leadership, from what I've heard. Why would he expect others not to behave the same way as he did?

Well yes if you believe that all MP's should back the Leader of the Labour Party and have no independent views of their own.

The point is that principle would apply whether the Leader was Blair, Brown , Miliband or Corbyn, SURELY! It's either a 'principle' or not.!

Where would the idea in the OP fit with Corbyn and McDonnell who were happy to not back the Leader of the Labour Party time and time again themselves? Wouldn't that be a case of hypocrisy .

The word 'democracy' has been banded about as a 'brand' for Labour under Corbyns leadership yet the idea proposed in the OP would hardly be democracy in action, more like 'do as I say, or leave the party'. How is that remotely democratic?

Actually I don't think there has been a more dictatorial, threatening abuse of democracy so openly shown by suggesting Labour MP's who were elected by their constituents have to 'put themselves up for reselection' .

The narcassism behind that if it was a dictat is astounding.

Rosequartz, yes Corbyn could be trusted by previous leaders, they knew where he stood

Corbyn has been in the house for years, he must have seen every trick in the book played out. A clever move by John McDonnell today, publicly asking those who had walked away to come back and help the party win , this leaves those who walked away look as if they are letting the party down.

I rung party head office last week and said Cooper,Hunt and Co were betraying the party and treating party members as if they were stupid and so best ignored