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Will Cameron resign if he looses EU vote?

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Gracesgran Sun 11-Oct-15 13:13:48

With an interesting article in the Sunday Telegraph which lays out the four-point plan they say that David Cameron and his closest Cabinet allies have drawn up, thoughts of what will happen after the referendum are being discussed by the chattering classes.

They four points are:

Forcing Brussels to make “an explicit statement” that Britain will be kept out of any move towards a European superstate. This will require an exemption for the UK from the EU’s founding principle of “ever closer union”.

An “explicit statement” that the euro is not the official currency of the EU, making clear that Europe is a “multi-currency” union. Ministers want this declaration in order to protect the status of the pound sterling as a legitimate currency that will always exist.

A new “red card” system to bring power back from Brussels to Britain. This would give groups of national parliaments the power to stop unwanted directives being handed down and to scrap existing EU laws.

A new structure for the EU itself. The block of 28 nations must be reorganised to prevent the nine countries that are not in the eurozone being dominated by the 19 member states that are, with particular protections for the City of London.

Neither side has waited to set up their lines of offence/defence and there seems to be a lot of far right Tories who do not like what they see.

According to journalists at the party conference "there was no missing the Eurosceptic mood among the grassroots."

What would happen if he lost? According to the Economist this week he would have to resign - as Alex Salmond did. If he resigned we could see the party move much more to the right under a more Eurosceptic leader such as Sajid Javiid or Michael Gove.

I imagine this would be the dream of some on here and the nightmare of others. Interesting times.

rosequartz Tue 13-Oct-15 23:52:58

Meaning, I don't want to join a political party, I prefer to have a think and not pay allegiance to any of them.

rosequartz Tue 13-Oct-15 23:51:51

I did gg and dj smile

Yes, I understood, and no, I won't be!

durhamjen Tue 13-Oct-15 22:06:45

She probably did, Gracesgran. But when I said get your membership early 2017 if you want to vote, I was talking about the Tory leadership.

Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 21:17:32

That is an oddly worded sentence MamaCaz. I see what you are saying. "I'm going and no referendum". Difficult to know if that is what it means but it does seem to have some shrouded mean - or it was put together by someone with no natural flow? Curious.

Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 21:11:17

I missed something I think Jen I thought rosequartz meant she was a general election floating voter.

durhamjen Tue 13-Oct-15 21:03:19

All political parties make up their own rules for choosing their leader.
With the Tories, only the parliamentary party votes until there are two candidates left. Then all members can vote for one of the remaining two.
However, you have to have been a fully paid up member for at least three months. That's why no floating voter will be able to vote for the next Tory leader.

MamaCaz Tue 13-Oct-15 21:02:20

Cameron said, "I will not lead a government that doesn't have that referendum in law and carried out."

Did that wording sound strange to anyone else?
We know that the Government is very keen to stay in the EU, so what's to stop them going back on the promise to hold a referendum if it looks like the result will go the other way?
We already know that Cameron is going to stand down as prime minister during this term in office, and as long as he did that before the said referendum should have taken place, he would not be going back on his statement, would he!

Call me sceptical if you like, but I wouldn't be surprised if that were to happen!

rosequartz Tue 13-Oct-15 20:51:37

I don't think the typical floating voter floats very far Gracesgran

Sometimes a political party leaves them rather than the other way round.

rosequartz Tue 13-Oct-15 20:50:23

No such thing as a floating voter for the Tory leadership although a few non-Labour people managed to join the Labour Party to vote in their leadership election (very very norty imo)
grin

There must be quite a lot of us as otherwise the same party would remain in power for ever.

Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 20:46:08

(smile) I was wondering about every one - number wise that you have voted for. I suppose what I was asking is just how much a floating voter floats. Don't worry if you don't want to say - I'm being quite nosy I know.

durhamjen Tue 13-Oct-15 20:34:57

No such thing as a floating voter for the Tory leadership.

rosequartz Tue 13-Oct-15 20:30:05

Do you mean including the MRLP? or just the slightly more sensible ones?

Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 19:35:40

Just out of interest how many different parties have you voted for rose.

rosequartz Tue 13-Oct-15 19:33:00

Get your membership early 2017 if you want to vote.

No thanks
I prefer to be a floating voter
I am the one who holds the power grin

Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 10:50:10

I could not believe anyone would imagine such a thing Anya but when I was reading the article - and the Economist is more about economics than left or right politics - you could see their thinking.

Could anyone, whether ecstatic about the outcome or downcast, have foreseen JC as leader of the Labour Party? Anything is possible.

rosesarered Tue 13-Oct-15 10:48:34

Yup,the curse of the iPad, it likes to do it's own thing and needs closely watching!

Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 10:46:26

a b****y iPad doing its own thing again. The machines are taking over the world.

Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 10:45:33

He makes Theresa May look like one of the Easter a Bunnies shock

Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 10:44:33

Gove? No way!

rosesarered Tue 13-Oct-15 10:35:58

I can't see Gove as PM.

Gracesgran Tue 13-Oct-15 10:23:41

Hopefully no one will have to leave because people will foresee what the possibility of a Gove government would mean smile

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 13-Oct-15 10:18:55

Eh?! What?! confused

Alea Tue 13-Oct-15 10:16:00

Is this one of the thread titles Jingj was referring to?

Anya Tue 13-Oct-15 09:39:53

Of course DJ read the posts correctly properly.

How could you imagine otherwise?

durhamjen Tue 13-Oct-15 00:06:29

Will Cameron resign if he loses EU vote?
I hope so. He is a PR man. Nobody else gets near him in spinning.