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Families where no one has ever worked, nor wanted to, and claim all the benefits they can.

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Gracesgran Thu 15-Oct-15 19:14:57

Apparently, from comments we see here and in some of the media, we all know these families. Do you? Could you prove it? How do you find out so much about their income etc? How do you know they have never, ever worked.

I heard a politician on the radio describing a constituent he met when he was door knocking during the election. He was told he should sort out the women on the corner. She didn't work but all her kids wore designer clothes. They always have new stuff. They were taking the benefit system for a ride. He needed to sort out that "sort of thing".

The house on the corner was in his constituency so he called. The "women on the corner" turned out to be running a very successful online business from home. They discussed how his party could aid this sort of business.

So, how could a neighbour or even a friend know all the details? Perhaps you do. How did you find out? How do you know it is accurate? When did you report them? What was the outcome.

We are told that so many people abuse the system. How have you dealt with this knowledge and the law that surrounds it?

Anya Sun 28-Feb-16 20:08:50

Isn't it against GN guidelines to launch a personal attack and call someone a 'big bully' ?

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 20:09:31

Ridiculous. Shame indeed...hmm

Anya Sun 28-Feb-16 21:05:52

Beware my 'attack post' about my dishwasher! grin

Anya Sun 28-Feb-16 21:07:10

Though it's not something I usually do I am going to report this to GNHQ because, to be honest, I'm sick to the back teeth of this person.

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 21:26:12

Mamacaz, MPs quite often ask the DWP how much these enquiries cost.
The DWP, believe it or not, never have the figures.
There have been quite a few e-petitions asking for how much money has been wasted on the DWP changes.
Last week an MP asked about the cost benefit of the EU referendum. No answer.
Hunt and Lansley hid the report about how much the changes in the NHS would cost and whether it is value for money. The report has never been published.

So if you find out what you want to know, please let us know.

We only ever find out about anything through freedom of information requests. The government thinks we have too much freedom of information.

granjura Sun 28-Feb-16 21:48:41

Who on earth would write 6 x 1 liners in a row to attack a point of view, really?

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 21:59:20

Who on earth would 'leave' GN in a huff and make such a mean-spirited comeback post?

Anya Sun 28-Feb-16 22:06:22

Don't bother Ana (but thanks anyway) she's not worth it. It's just too petty for words.

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:13:42

Maybe Anya just wants to get to 1000 posts quickly, granjura.

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:15:10

Anya, how can you be sick to the back teeth of someone who hasn't been on for a month at least?

Have you really not reported a post before?

granjura Sun 28-Feb-16 22:21:15

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Anya Sun 28-Feb-16 22:35:15

Well the only bit of that ramble which made any sense was the zzzzzzzzzzzzzz grin so on that note moon

Ana Sun 28-Feb-16 22:40:22

Not on, granjura. You'll get yourself permanently banned if you carry on like this.

Anya Sun 28-Feb-16 22:41:35

Again!

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:54:37

Can anyone be permanently banned again?

I must admit, that is a pretty nasty pm, slurring a lot of us.
I do hope whoever it was, has been banned for life.
(Goes off dragging her hands on the floor.)

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 22:56:13

Somehow, I do not think granjura is bothered about being banned.

rosesarered Sun 28-Feb-16 22:57:17

wat a snobissh message on that pm, how very dare they!Shunt be alowd.

POGS Sun 28-Feb-16 23:32:07

Good on whoever XY Z is or was your PM mentioned for upsetting such a pompous ass as the person who sent you that PM.

I would have been embarrassed to print that PM to be honest as he/she obviously felt comfortable sending it to you in the first place, obviously because he/she thought you shared similar views as it was certainly not a PM any normal poster would send completely out of the blue.

Arrogant or narcissistic , take your pick. Then again don't choose it's nothing more than a post that wants to gain attention and cause division. Bugger I fell for it. wink

wot Sun 28-Feb-16 23:38:42

Makes me angry that being under educated should be thought of as a reason not to use Gransnet. That pm person should be grateful they were educated not snobbish about it!

wot Sun 28-Feb-16 23:49:17

Good point, Pogs, about the pm being sent to her as someone who would agree with her nasty views!

durhamjen Sun 28-Feb-16 23:54:33

www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/27/false-benefit-fraud-allegations

Anyway, this is the link that Anya thought was not worth talking about.
If anyone actually reads the op, you will see that it is exactly what we should be talking about.

If Anya doesn't think it's important, perhaps she should stay off the thread.

lynnie1 Mon 29-Feb-16 00:04:52

I have absolutely no idea what is going on here... However, to answer the original OP, I have zero interest in other folks' finances. Life's tough, you know - it's getting tougher. I highly doubt that people on benefits are living the life of Riley and no, I absolutely eou

lynnie1 Mon 29-Feb-16 00:08:56

I do apologise , pressed too soon, what I meant to say, was, I would absolutely not report anyone , that would be appalling

POGS Mon 29-Feb-16 00:09:44

Blimey is there such a thing as ' Arrogance Sunday' ?

Anya Mon 29-Feb-16 07:18:16

D'you know DJ it's not up to you and your sycophants to say who can and can't post. I personally wonder whether that PM was made up just so a certain person could put her own views forward disguised as anothers.