Remembrance Day Ceremony

Thanks.

You were severely provoked, nigglynellie, but your apology does you credit!

Thank you Devorgilla, and again I'm sorry that I went over the top and caused a fuss.

Nigglynellie, you got there before me. I was going to post exactly the same sentiment of it having run its course. So, as I started it, let me finish the conversation by wishing all participants a dignified Remembrance Day however they choose to mark it.

In a nutshell - yes!

Though remember, in the end ( and it IS an emotive subject) most of us were singing from the same hymn sheet, and would have liked a shortened version of the service for both the very old veterans and the Queen.

Not before time!!!!!

This is for a lot of us a very emotive subject which some of us, me in particular, should have steered clear of. I won't be making that mistake again, and I think probably this 'conversation' has run its course.

I'm so glad I had something better to do last night than come on here. Whoever said kerfuffle was right!

I think most of us feel that Deedaa, as none of us can imagine the images and sheer terror that these veterans old and young must have experienced which imo certainly makes them deserving of our respect and gratitude. Surely this must override politics, just for one day.

Kerfuffle! Love that word, haven't heard it in years.

What a kerfuffle. Only one thing is certain: that the ceremony of remembrance will go ahead on Remebrance Sunday, come hell or high water and what on earth is the point of getting all hot under the collar about it?

I think the service is for the living. It is living people who go to it. "Let the dead bury the dead" and let the living remember. The clue is in the name of the service: Remembrance.

To say that the service is not for the veterans who survived is awful. They are the people who remember the dead better than any of us - they were there when they died!

I agree, but perhaps they wouldn't want what they might consider to be preferential treatment, which takes us back to a diplomatically shorter ceremony. Who knows? gallant old souls, you have to admire them. Let's hope it's not a day like today!!

nigglynellie I feel the same myself about the veterans, and thought what a subject to get political about, Rememberence Day!
Further To this, I do wonder why they can't be made more comfortable and proper seating laid on for them, to have to stand about, at that age.

No need to apologise rosequartz, and I agree totally with what you say. If I've caused offense on this thread then I too apologise, I shouldn't make personal comments and won't again and will ignore any thrown at me. I do get prickly at any adverse comments about our veterans including HM, but, take a deep breath and think it but don't say it will now be my byword!!

so there's no more to be said.
sorry, nigglynellie I read that after I had said quite a lot!

Why oh why has a perfectly reasonable topic descended into this level of bad tempered vituperative mudslinging??
Quite, Alea.
What is it about Remembrance Day that seems to bring out the worst in people?
Our town has often had its problems with Remembrance Day, more so this year than in the 90+ years it has been organised here.

The veterans survived, it is not a service for them, it is for the dead
Sorry, anniebach I have been reading the views with interest and seeing both points of view including yours, but that is not a pleasant remark.
Yes, technically, perhaps it is remembrance for the dead and the sacrifice they made, but it is also for remembering the old boys - and girls - who have died since and those who are still managing to attend the service in 2015 - they may have survived but they made a sacrifice too.
My DF survived both wars, but I still remember him and what he did when I go to a Remembrance Day service.
DH's father never came home and we remember him too, although I never met him.
Their wives did not join up but they made sacrifices, lived through terror and fear of not knowing what was happening to their husbands. We remember them too.

So, in this family at least, we don't think the service is just for the dead.

At least HM joined the ATS and probably gave inspiration to the whole country by doing that.

Some of my parents' neighbours managed to get out of joining up and made themselves quite a fortune in WW2.

Exactly, merlot, and that's just how it should be.

Mustn't take the mick. Julie has to do it all on her own at weekends.

The whole weekend is one of remembrance. I feel quite drained when it's over because it's so emotionally charged. You can't pigeonhole people as though some are more deserving than others. Nothing brings a tear to my eye more than the sight of the proud veterans remembering their fallen comrades.

I'm sure the ceremony will be as poignant and thought provoking as ever however long it lasts.

I honour not only those who gave their lives, but also those who were prepared to.

They seem to think that cake will keep us quiet, and perhaps they hope the hot chocolate will send us off to bed...

Cake will make us fat.