The police want to see your entire internet history

In the not too distant future it won't be sewn to your clothing, but downloaded to the microchip inserted at birth under your skin, containing all your medical, personal, employment and financial hsitory. The technology is already available, just awaiting acceptance by future generations. Scanners will read and track where you go, and no-one will think anything of it. But I couldn't live like that, and if makiing a fuss can delay it a bit, I'm all for protestiing!

Actually I feel irritated with myself for being flippant about this with my first post. It is true that there is nothing on my sites that would get them excited and I appreciate their need to monitor certain activities. I am also pretty sure there will be triggers that set off the alarms as another poster suggested which leaves most of us alone. But I heard an MP on the Marr show pointing out that all information would be retained for 12 months and would contain your personal and financial information and that this could leave everyone open to fraudulent activity. The quality and honesty of the personnel employed to monitor the site would be crucial here. Also, as a war baby, I do believe strongly in the right of citizens to go about their own country without 'let or hinderance' provided they are obeying the law. I vividly remember the Pathe News at the cinema showing the inmates coming out of the concentration camps with their identification classification sewn to their clothing. For me it is a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde situation. No matter what system is set up it will never be perfect and someone will crack it. Human beings being vigilant in their neighbourhood and beyond are perhaps still the best information system going. Knowledge is power but for whom? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The poiint is that they have been thwarted with the surveillance we already have. It is very easy to frighten the public by saying we need to keep track of every aspect of your lives or there will be a terrorist attack. But where is the proof that these new laws giving sweeping powers to the State that you can never take back will actually make a substantial difference compared to the surveillance we have now?

The 'Hunted' programme recently showed how easy it is already to find anyone and track them, I would like to see evidence that the proposed new law actually is needed.

Isnt terrorist attacks, IS, and terrorist attacks that are thwarted, enough evidence?

Who pays? Far better employed in creating healthy communities-solo clubs,etc.

I am another who would be happy to carry an identity card; having been required to do so on many occasions in the past I think it makes perfect sense. Of course it would give the likes of Shami Chakrabhati something else to get over-excited about, but frankly the arguments I've heard for not having them don't hold water for me. As for Internet surveillance, as has been said, most of the population would have little need to be concerned anyway. If they looked at mine, they'd learn a lot about flyfishing and the Napoleonic Wars and not much else!

It is important to bear in mind those who do need to hide their details - the abused wives, (and husbands), stalkers victims, those fleeing from forced marriages, those under police protection etc. Search engines can identify in seconds what it would take weeks to do manually. Allowing all police officers, all civil servants, or all NHS workers access to national databases will allow the rogue employees the ability to track down their victims, it has happened already, and this will make it easier. I would feel more reassured if the only access was after judicial review, rather than the home secretary of the day, who hasn't time to look at all cases thoroughly.

The 'Hunted' programme recently showed how easy it is already to find anyone and track them, I would like to see evidence that the proposed new law actually is needed.

Essentail reading - The Circle by Dave Eggars, it will frighten you! www.amazon.co.uk/Circle-Dave-Eggers/dp/0804172293

I believe that around 20 hackers knew about the Talk Talk website being vulnerable and shared the info so a lot more are going to be pulled in. I imagine they are hoping their names will be shared so they can be offered really good jobs in IT.

Quite happy for anyone to check out my laptop, Kindle and phone although I must have clicked on something I didn't intend to a couple of weeks ago because what I saw was not at all to my taste!

I would happily carry and identity card too.

Well said Petra... Agree entirely. ( about 20 posts up)

Update on this today www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34691956

Thanks for the letter and the comments-gave me a good laugh!
I think that if a 15 year old can hack into talktalk won't some enterprising youngster develop a way of hiding/masking their histories? Which will only leave us oldies to look at!

Oh Indiana I had a laugh at what you said!

Be interesting to see what the Tories have actually achieved in this and last office, as well as what they have shelved/dropped

I love that letter durhamjen!

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/31/theresa-may-backtracks-on-internet-snooping

Another government climb-down. Must be getting into double figures now.
If they carry on like this, we'll have a Labour manifesto with a Tory government.

They will probably die of boredom before they reach the end of the first month.

Oh! No Hallowe'en

Containing a letter from a mother sent to the government about radicalising children in nursery.
Well, I'm not going to open it in case they come knocking on my door.

[thlmoon]

Do you think it will be noticed that I called Cameron and Osborne liars on another thread?
Who's that knocking at my door, have I heard that knock before

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Containing a letter from a mother sent to the government about radicalising children in nursery.

Obviously Cameron will be hoping it's the Labour and Libdems who die off. The problem is that they want to put another hundred Tories in just to give them a better chance next year.

Do you think it will be noticed that I called Cameron and Osborne liars on another thread?

Well, that is one way of limiting the numbers - just don't replace them!

They are getting older now. Lots of them must be a similar age to those that are dying off.
Once someone is made a Lord for life, they are in the House of Lords until they die. It's only the hereditary Lords that are limited.

Thanks Djen
I will look at that tomorrow

Roseq,

www.fixmystreet.com

is a good website to complain on to the council. It lets everyone else know if anyone's complained about the same thing.