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Attacks in Paris

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LyndaW Fri 13-Nov-15 21:38:34

Watching the news and there have been 2 separate incidents in Paris (one explosion near a football ground and one shoot out at a restaurant.). 4 dead so far. So awful. What is happening?

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 11:45:25

So gillybob , you see IS in control of parliament in the next generation, I do not

gillybob Mon 16-Nov-15 11:28:58

I'm sorry but I don't want our way of life to change Anniebach I don't want me DGD's to be forced to wear a bloody hijab or be treat like 3rd class citizens because they are girls. I don't want them to be forced to marry some old crone in order to protect the family honour....... I could go on and on.

whitewave Mon 16-Nov-15 11:21:02

The refugees are fleeing from IS. Now, whether some IS come in on their backs is another issue, and something Europe will need to address. It is notable that so far with Charlie Hebbo, and so far those identified this time are all home grown.

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 11:05:41

We changed the laws and way of life of many countries

gillybob Mon 16-Nov-15 11:02:55

A little extreme I thinkannette18 but I do agree that anyone coming here for a better life should be prepared to abide by our laws.

I don't know how you can be so sure whitewave ?

nana5ue Mon 16-Nov-15 11:02:45

But what is the point of it all? I don't understand what the terrorists hope to gain by doing these dreadful things. But it is worrying how many are coming to 'our' world and yet they despise everything we stand for. Oh someone help.

Anniebach Mon 16-Nov-15 11:02:41

I am not more or less interested in France than other countries

whitewave Mon 16-Nov-15 10:55:21

The refugees are not the problem

annette18 Mon 16-Nov-15 10:43:06

Put all the refugees on an island( Don't know where) build there own community as they don't want to live in our communities and go by our laws and way of life.

whitewave Mon 16-Nov-15 09:54:58

I see them as the type of under ground fungus that emanates from the centre and pops up where conditions allow it. If you separate a piece of it though it can still function which is why it is so difficult to control, but if we don't everything will become rotten in its wake.

whitewave Mon 16-Nov-15 09:36:54

Without a world view though we will never get a handle on IS. They operate throughout the world particularly in areas where they stand a chance of dividing the existing population.

The media and world governments must treat them as a global organism, simply because that is how they function.

rosesarered Mon 16-Nov-15 09:21:01

On the other subject, it's natural that we are more interested in our neighbour France, than in further flung countries.

rosesarered Mon 16-Nov-15 09:19:17

The police, including the armed response teams, constantly do training for exactly this sort of thing, ( I have police officers in the family) and they do so many training days,so that they are ready for almost any situation.
You can never allow for crazy people who will blow themselves up, so we can never be really safe, but that can happen anywhere.

soontobe Mon 16-Nov-15 08:28:43

Belgium rather than Brazil? You get my drift.

But now that IS is more relevant to us, we will get Lebanon news or whereever.

soontobe Mon 16-Nov-15 08:26:48

Do countries not report news that largely has the most relevance to its citizens, so will go for news of countries close to it rather than those further away on the whole? Is that not logical and reasonable?
So we get French news rather than Ghana, picking a country further away at random.
Germany rather than Puerto Rico?

Anya Mon 16-Nov-15 05:51:12

Thanks for that link Maggie.

It is patently stupid that in times like this cuts are being made to the police and armed response teams. An attack is highly likely and it could be anywhere.

grannyqueenie Sun 15-Nov-15 23:46:47

Well said, Alea

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 15-Nov-15 23:02:55

merlotgran I was thinking about that too and given the high number of armed police in London, it would make sense not to mount an attack there, but to choose a softer target.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 15-Nov-15 22:58:35

I was impressed at the speed of response on Friday night and it did cross my mind that I was not sure UK police could respond as quickly, but then decided the police must do practice drills in the event of attacks. But after reading that article, the doubts are back. For the first time in my life I think our police should be armed. It is no longer viable for police officers on the front line to wait for the support of armed officers.

I feel Friday night was a game changer.

etheltbags1 Sun 15-Nov-15 22:51:47

I am scared it will happen here. It will be like in the 70s when we had bomb scares all the time from the IRA.

merlotgran Sun 15-Nov-15 22:47:01

Thanks for the link, Maggie. I agree that it's terribly worrying.

We're assuming an attack will happen in London but it could just as easily be Manchester, Birmingham or any other major city.

Maggiemaybe Sun 15-Nov-15 22:35:16

I hope it is a wake up call to our Government, Merlotgran. The cuts to our police force will mean that if (probably when) an attack happens here, they won't be able to respond as the French police did. We already have a force of 128,000 in England and Wales compared to France's 278,000 (most of whom are armed, of course, compared to 6,000 of ours). The Home Office plan to cut this number to 80,000. What on earth are they thinking about?

I don't normally pay much attention to the Huffington Post, but this former police officer, writing after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, knows what he's talking about.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/chris-hobbs/police-cuts_b_6454652.html

granjura Sun 15-Nov-15 21:23:14

Yes, goes both ways... tragically.

Marmark1 Sun 15-Nov-15 20:51:57

It seems to me,some people value lives less than others.Even their own.

Alea Sun 15-Nov-15 20:49:09

Lebanon is holding a day of national mourning after at least 41 people were killed in two suicide bombings in the capital, Beirut. The Islamic State (IS) militant group says it was behind the attacks in Burj al-Barajneh, a mainly Shia southern suburb and Hezbollah stronghold,2 days ago

"Lebanon holds day of mourning after deadly Beirut blasts" - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk › news › world-middle-east

Was this what you were referring to, Granjura?
It was reported, but like the landslide election of Aung San Suu Kyi in Myanmar or the killing of the so-called Jihadi John, has been superseded in the media.Why? More recent, more fatalities, closer to home, UK victims, and a scenario we can more easily identify with. It is a sad reflection of our preoccupation with ourselves and those nearest or most like me us, that they are deemed "worthy" of more column inches.