Attacks in Paris

Being Swiss, I could not be sure if granjura understood the use of the word great.

Yes it was.

It was called the Great War because it was so big, involving so many countries and went on for so long, not because anyone thought it was actually 'great' as in wonderful granjura lost in translation

Non mea culpa.

I think you will find that suggestion of a loss in translation was from rosesarered

Pogs - why do you ask about being a "postwar baby"?
I was born in 1936 and remember a lot about WW2. It was such an anxious 6 years, much loved fathers etc out there fighting real evil. Maybe it hardened many of us who experienced it, even if we weren't actually fighting.
I think I sometimes come across as too tough and outspoken as a result.

Whaaaaaaaat? This has become a very, ahem, senior type of thread.

I was confused as I have never changed my user name.

Actually I didn't have a clue if you were a post war baby or not.

well if that was a deliberate attempt at changing name, rather than a typing error after a long absence- it would have been pretty dumb no! (lol).

Those who have changed names, some again and again- were very careful to change to very different names indeed. Style and content does always prevail and 'out' people anyhow. Leopard and its spots, and all that.

Anyhow, I would never change names- as some have done several times (against Forum rules)- but it is tempting.

You used to be juragran. Now you're granjura
A quote from another thread!

Perhaps it was a typing error granjura, and no I'm not getting at you, I just thought it was funny!
I have been tempted to try to change my name on several occasions myself!

No Pogs, not at all. Anyhow, I would never change names- as some have done several times (against Forum rules)- but it is tempting.

Granjura

Are you talking to me in your post 15.29. .

POGS yes, got it now
I should have realised

Oh dear, time to go and have a refreshing I think

I suppose I could change my name, as you did- to try and stop your constant attacks.

Alea- no, there is no loss in translation- I am aware that Great is used in a different sense, but it still makes me shudder every time. Stop it, please.

POGS, yes I have often asked myself- and as said I came to the conclusion it probably was.

I am a Post war baby, and was indeed born in the relative safety of Switzerland, as you well know. It doesn't stop me asking myself, and others, the question.

rose quartz.

That's because they didn't call Durhamjen names.

Adam Hills is a presenter on the Last Leg who was at one time amusing to watch but like so many when they become 'a celebrity' they think a lot of themselves and opinionated.

His comments were pretty tame and didn't offer much of a solution did they.

Oh! Thank you Ana

I thought, as I hadn't seen djen for a while she had refrained because she had been called those names.
And I was wondering why she had been invited to the Australian High Commission

All clear now.

soon

I think you make a good point re if terrorists stop fighting then fighting stops but IS 'will never stop' .

Absent your post of 18/11/15. 22.29

You state 'Talk of WW111 and a global caliphate , whether here or in the knee-jerk media seems disproportionate'. You then mention IS is well funded, but does not have the finances to become a state nor a caliphate.

I realise you in your post you are making the points stated in relation to those who keep referring to Germany and I agree it doesn't wash with me either.

I have to take issue with the premise however that IS could never become a state /caliphate. IS does not have to gain a state/caliphate by financial means it is like a cuckoo , it just kills it's prey and dominates the nest it's prey has built.

The desire for the Islamic State/Caliphate is not reliant on finances it is already being built hypothetically in the minds of the Islamic State fighters. Maybe WW111 is a strong opinion to hold but the defeat of IS and the worldwide spread of IS is as close as we have probably come to since the Cold War . As for a global caliphate the only way to stop it is to fight it.

rose, dj was quoting Adam Hills, although I admit the post did puzzle me at first!

djen I can't believe anyone on GN called you those names, so presumably they came from a difference source; people on here may disagree (and quite vehemently sometimes) but that it beyond the pale.
Un-Australian? where on earth did that come from? that's just odd.
How can you be Un-Australian unless you are an Australian citizen
People such as the hairdresser in England who says she will refuse to have Muslims as customers are just exacerbating the situation - and creating divisions where none existed.

I suppose what we are trying to differentiate is between defence of our people and way of life against an enemy and that of attacking for no reason.

I took that from Ab's 11.25 post. Sorry, it didnt need your name first.

I think you are mixing me with someone elsen

Whitewave, WW1 was the war to end all wars and it was going to last less than six months , 16 million deaths and five years of fighting and we still want war.

Can I ask what you think would have happened if people did not fight against the Germans?

A separate issue, but I've often wondered. If I was growing up in Gazza now- would I be a pacifist or a 'terrorist' - what is the difference between a terrorist fighting to save his people and country, and a soldier?

The difference is [and people can correct me if I am completely wrong]
if a terrorist stops fighting, fighting ceases.

In the case of IS, if British or France or USA or whoever stops fighting, fighting does not cease[from IS].

Huge difference.

I have sort of agreed I do not agree with pacifism.

But asking people in their 70s 80s and 90s is a world of difference from asking someone in their 20s.

It is called experience.

I too understood Aleas post perfectly well, perfectly apt.

Granjura you ask if WW11 was ' just or necessary ' , although you say you think you believe it probably was neccessary may I ask if you were alive during WW11 and if so were living in the relative safety net of Switzerland.

Jingl, what my dad used to call "unconscious humour"!!! Either a Freudian slip or I suspect my iPad has a mind of its own