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soontobe Tue 17-Nov-15 08:14:07

I dont get it.

Would they do self defence or not?
Would they defend a neighbour or not?
Would they defend somone at the end of their street that they did not know very well, or not?
Would they defend someone who they didnt know who lived in the next town, who they came across that needed defending?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34832023

Or is it a case of, they are not happy about it, but would do it if they had to?

JamJar1 Wed 18-Nov-15 20:45:27

We are never, ever going to know. grin

Ana Wed 18-Nov-15 20:41:16

Good thinking, Anniebach!

Anniebach Wed 18-Nov-15 20:39:44

Breeding silk worms ?

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:14:31

But it can be as enigmatic as you like grin

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:13:21

It's your thread soontobe
Post what you like (as long as it is not offensive or personal)

rosequartz Wed 18-Nov-15 20:12:29

Soon , you are out of your depth. Back out and leave it to your elders

Patronising or what! Probably what - just plain rude.
shock

Ana Wed 18-Nov-15 20:10:54

Yes, JamJar, it's all very mysterious! The occupations couldn't have been carried out in another country 'and would have been totally against the point'...confused

And the skills have been handed down through the generations (and are presumably being carried on even now by soon and her family).

Pig farmers?

soontobe Wed 18-Nov-15 19:46:50

I didnt know I was, but will bear it in mind.smile

TriciaF Wed 18-Nov-15 19:37:53

Soon - your thread topic is a very interesting one. Loads of responses, but you don't need to stay "in control". Just let it flow!
That's what I meant.

JamJar1 Wed 18-Nov-15 18:36:10

Don't divulge unless you are happy to soon but I must admit I am curious about these skills your family had. Yes I am being very nosy and again don't reply if you really would rather not.

soontobe Wed 18-Nov-15 18:08:46

* Soon , you are out of your depth. Back out and leave it to your elders.*

I started the thread because I know I dont know as much as some, so was interested to learn.
I didnt know that "younger people" are not allowed to ask "elders" things.

petra Wed 18-Nov-15 17:49:17

TriciaF. She won't back off.

nigglynellie Wed 18-Nov-15 17:46:25

My father was killed in 1942, my Stepfather was a PO W in the Far East, my uncle was in the Northamtonshire regiment fighting on the beaches on D day and on through to the Rhine and My second cousin was in the Reconnaissance Corp in North Africa. He died of wounds in 1945. My Grandfather was in the Ox and Bucks from 1915-1919, fighting on the Western Front, ending in Ireland. I think our family had had enough of those two wars, and can only pray that DGS never ever has to face another.

TriciaF Wed 18-Nov-15 17:39:13

I've just read this thread and all I can say is .... Soon , you are out of your depth. Back out and leave it to your elders.

Anniebach Wed 18-Nov-15 16:48:43

No matter what Corbyn says he will be condemned by the right. Hilary Benn put BBC Norman straight on how they will reach decisions, it will not get media attention.

soontobe Wed 18-Nov-15 16:36:59

Did they all follow the same occupation or was that just coincidence?

Not coincedence really exactly. Skills handed down.

WilmaKnickersfit Wed 18-Nov-15 15:38:07

Luckygirl thanks for confirming what I said in my post (which seems to have been ignored), that you think JC was saying he couldn't see him agreeing to illegal military action.

Beats me why some posters berate Tony Blair for illegally going into Iraq and then not only ridicule JC for saying he doesn't think we should participate in illegal action, but appear to support this government to do just that.

Anybody wondering why the 60+countries in the international coalition are not pushing for a UN resolution or a long term NATO for military action against ISIL? Maybe it's because China and Syria are allies and China will block action. The USA can justify the action it is taking because it has got governmental agreement that there is 'clear and present danger'. What do we have?

rosesarered Wed 18-Nov-15 15:11:52

DH was the result of their reunion in 1945! grin

rosesarered Wed 18-Nov-15 15:10:46

Much against the wishes of my MIL!

rosesarered Wed 18-Nov-15 15:09:55

My FIL left the police ( they kept his job open until after the war, when he resumed it) and joined the RAF in 1942, he felt it was his duty even though he was in the police and was 39 at the time.

gillybob Wed 18-Nov-15 15:07:36

being in a reserved occupation (there were several deemed to be essential to the running of the country) did not mean that you were not allowed to volunteer. Both of my grandads were miners in the same mine. One volunteered to go to war and the other did not.

loopylou Wed 18-Nov-15 15:05:27

My father was in a reserved occupation, he too volunteered for the Home Guard.
It still rankles with him (he's 91!) that he couldn't sign up; he lost several close friends who he still mourns.

Anniebach Wed 18-Nov-15 15:03:15

My FIL was in the Navy , Dad in the coal mines

gillybob Wed 18-Nov-15 15:02:00

My late grandad worked in a reserved occupation. He was a miner. He still volunteered and went to war. I don't think being in a reserved occupation meant you couldn't volunteer.

rosesarered Wed 18-Nov-15 15:01:16

My FIL was a policeman , so was exempt, or was it called reserved occupation.