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Have the cuts been worth it?

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Eloethan Sun 22-Nov-15 00:51:00

The I reported today "Osborne needs a minor miracle to keep on track", referring to the weakest set of October public finance figures for 6 years - the borrowing figure for last month was well above expectations.

Meanwhile ..........

"Sub-prime mortgages make a surprise return to UK market" (lending to people with poor credit histories - said to be cause of 2008 crash) (Guardian 31.10.15)

"Top firms on CBI Advisory Panel failing to pay living wage" (Guardian 7.11.15)

"A new sheriff in a small town" (Frinton residents pay £2 a week for private security since they are now totally reliant on PCSOs) (Guardian 7.11.15)

"Growing care homes crisis will transfer cost burden to NHS" (Guardian 7.11.15)

"Risky to leave forensics to private sector, warns expert" (The I 30.10.15)

"UK losing leverage on world stage, says report" (The I 3.11.15)

"Rising fees behind the "collapse" in part-time students" (The I 29.1015)

"Return of Victorian diseases" (The I 28.10.15)

"Most workers to be "worse off" under new state pension" (Guardian 27.10.15)

"Budget cuts put children's centres at risk of closure" (Guardian 19.10.15)

"Over-stretched neonatal units risk to babies" (Guardian 19.10.15)

"Further Education colleges on edge of bankruptcy" (Guardian 19.10.15)

"MPs warn that pensioners face mis-selling scandal" (Guardian 19.10.15)

"Growth in low-paid self-employed jobs" (The I 5.10.15)

"Courts charges depriving victims of payouts" (The I 14.10.15)

"Planning verdicts take three times longer after cuts" (The I 14.10.15)

"Legal Aid reform is shambles, says whistleblowers" (The I 17.10.15)"

"Reliance on food banks means Britain faces health nightmare (The I 7.9.15)

"Fifty magistrates quit over "unfair" court fees (The I 5.9.15)

"46,000 "Meals on Wheels" services cut" (number of elderly people admitted to hospital with malnutrition continues to rise (The I 13.1..15)

"HMRC staff braced for thousands of job cuts as 137 tax offices to close" (Guardian 12.11.15)

"Crisis in home care for the elderly sees thousands go hungry" (Daily Mail 7.10.15)

"Domestic violence refuge provision at crisis point warns charities" (Guardian 3.8.14)

"Closure of food testing laboratories "could put public safety at risk" (closure of 2 of England's 5 food, water and environmental laboratories) (The I 21.11.15)

"Legal Aid reform is blocked after solicitors' protest" (The I 21.11.15)

"Fit-to-work tests "causing suicides" (Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health) (The I 17.11.15)

"Savills warns of house-buying gap (around 350,000 new households will be unable to afford rent or buy within the next 5 years) The I 17.11.15)

Just a few of the examples of the real cost of these tax cuts.

whitewave Mon 23-Nov-15 09:05:54

Osborne's headline that he likes to give out is that there is no alternative to austerity. In truth the poor and not so poor, public services that we rely on etc are being sacrificed so that Osborne can give tax cuts before the next election. He will spin it that we all gain from the tax cuts but of course anyone with half a brain will understand the lie in this and the fact that there has been untold suffering to achieve these tax breaks.

soontobe Mon 23-Nov-15 09:45:36

dj. I was answering Ab's post of 12.51pm

soontobe Mon 23-Nov-15 09:46:33

I agree that the Labour Party, the SNP, etc are all so weak that the Tories can get away with all sorts.

durhamjen Mon 23-Nov-15 10:37:23

Looks like America is developing a heart, too, and thinking of the poor.

theconversation.com/socialism-is-not-a-dirty-word-bernie-sanders-really-is-changing-us-democracy-49245

Just hope Bernie Sanders does not back down now.
Sanders and Corbyn would make a good partnership. Actually, so would Sanders and McDonnell.

durhamjen Tue 24-Nov-15 20:02:58

" PEOPLE claiming the new universal credit have been left unable to pay their rent or afford food or electricity, according to a report co-authored by Citizens Advice Bolton.
Bosses from the advisory organisation presented their report at the Houses of Parliament, which aims to highlight problems with the new benefits system.

The report claims four out of five people surveyed by Bolton and 15 other Citizens Advice offices were unable to pay for such basic items while waiting for their first payment."

This is from the Bolton news. How on earth can the government think this is acceptable?

bikergran Tue 24-Nov-15 20:53:06

if I am right..I think you have to wait 4 or 5 weeks to receive UC once you have claimed.

durhamjen Tue 24-Nov-15 20:57:12

Yes, you are right, biker. That's what is so appalling about it. Not everyone has five weeks money to fall back on, particularly if they move onto UC from other benefits.

grannyactivist Tue 24-Nov-15 21:10:18

No.

durhamjen Tue 24-Nov-15 23:30:55

Poor old Osborne. Not even Sky news likes him. Who owns Sky?

news.sky.com/story/1593729/spending-review-welfare-cap-breach-likely

I would love this to happen. The article says that the welfare cap idea was set as a trap for labour.

Gracesgran Wed 25-Nov-15 09:40:36

I agree that the Labour Party, the SNP, etc are all so weak that the Tories can get away with all sorts.
You seem to be agreeing with yourself on this one Soon

I think the police will be OK, more or less, but I am horrified about what they seem to be prepared to do to Care. They really are quite wicked people in my opinion. There never was a feasible "long term economic plan".

durhamjen Thu 26-Nov-15 15:50:02

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/iain-duncan-smith-suffers-court-6905551

Good news for carers about the benefit cap, though, although nothing to do with Osborne or IDS.

durhamjen Thu 26-Nov-15 16:39:24

Something else to add to your list, Eloethan.

Osborne is going to cut the amount of money given to opposition parties to enable them to carry out their opposition duties.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/11/26/george-osborne-undermining-democracy/

The comments at the end are worth reading, too.

durhamjen Fri 27-Nov-15 00:11:25

Just read that Four Seasons has closed seven care homes in Ireland.

This is also interesting.

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2015/11/26/a-spot-of-bother-for-kpmg/

Four directors at KPMG have been arrested for tax evasion questioning in Belfast.

durhamjen Fri 27-Nov-15 00:18:43

Katie Hopkins was invited to speak about the cuts at Brunel University.
After she had started to speak, many of the students stood up and turned their backs on her. Then they walked out.

Does that make the cuts worth it?

soontobe Fri 27-Nov-15 11:30:30

I dont get your point.