Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

DJ They have certainly given plenty warning to Daesh who will be off in their four tracks leaving innocent civilians to the bombers. I couldn't contain myself when DC was saying it was essential to bomb Raqqa to knock out Daesh's communications. I was shouting at the TV 'Have you never heard of lap tops?' Are we supposed to believe that Daesh have a big building called the command centre where all their senior personnel sit at one giant mainframe computer?

If DC and his buddies had repeated once more that there have been 7 failed terrorist attacks in Britain in recent months I would have been reduced to a screaming wreck. This is allegedly not a police state so - Where were the attacks planned to take place? When? How many Terrorists are in Custody? Have they been charged? When will they be tried? I am afraid I give as much credence to this 'needs to be top secret' assertion as I did to Tony Blairs WMD due to reach us in 30minutes.

As to the accusations of virtue signalling, I can only say that I am genuinely distraught and fear that this country has just made one of the biggest mistakes in its history. Are those who fling that label at 'other's' posts realise that they are admitting that the 'others' actually hold the moral high ground (but are only doing so in order to make themselves look good of course.)

Russia wants IS defeated. What they mean is that Russia will not be helping to defeat IS as they have a different agenda (quelling all the rebels and giving power back to Assad.

The anti war groups held a minute's silence outside parliament after the vote.

Luckygirl, yes feel sick and sad, for DDs and GCs

rq I'm not sure if Putin knows what compromise means. He's a seriously scary guy.

Yes, the Tories had the whip, whitewave.

I would give you a link to the missiles to be used, roseq, but you'd only complain.
The only countries that have them are the UK and Saudi Arabia.

I know how you feel Wilma. Hopefully I will be gone when it happens, but my DDs and GC..............

They are all going to have to come to a compromise over Assad I think Wilma (unfortunately).

Apparently if they exist a d it isn't clear they do then they are in the
wrong place anyway
Assad will never let them aid the coalition

At the risk of sounding like a drama queen, tonight feels like I am watching the first steps towards the next world war. Now I am more worried about Russia and China as Assad's allies than Da-esh. On the news just now an American military officer just confirmed Russia's air strikes are still mainly against the moderate groups the International Coalition hopes to work with in the fight against Da-esh.

Oh yes I hadn t given that any thought. Was the government side whipped?

Interesting that the gov would have won the vote without the labour lot. All that trouble in the ranks for nothing really.

Imagine if it was your town or village. What would you be doing tonight?
Presumably they will be doing what they have been doing over the past four years of hell in Syria.
We can only pray for them.

Not ready with the right sort of missiles roseq.

Oh. Perhaps you know more about missiles than I do djen - do they intend to use different ones then, than the ones they are using against ISIL in Iraq?

A vote in government does not necessarily reflect the public's view - it may do of course, but it cannot be assumed.

Even a public opinion poll is only reliant on the people polled - it is not a reflection of the views of the whole public.
I have not been asked my views on anything in a poll for years.

Imagine if it was your town or village. What would you be doing tonight?

Not ready with the right sort of missiles roseq.
However they have just said that the planes in Cyprus are ready to strike Raqqa overnight.
I hope they give enough warning to the civilians.

Oh, God. just seen result of vote. Awful.

A vote in government does not necessarily reflect the public's view - it may do of course, but it cannot be assumed.

The decision was inevitable, but is a huge source of concern to me and many others. I believe it t be a mistake; and hope that we do not reap some very unfortunate rewards.

DJ Nick Robinson suggested that he has been identified as a future leader
whitewave, can I respond to that too?

Yes, perhaps his time has come (why didn't he stand before?).

Sorry, have to shut off Emily Rowberry.

And so it starts.

^I don't think that 48% in favour, 31% opposed is a majority.^In response to djen's post saying the majority of the public are against air strikes.

174 majority in favour of bombing

Philip Hammond has just said that the planes are ready to go, if not tonight, then tomorrow night. It worries me that he's said that.

They are always in a state of readiness - I thought everyone realised that?