Should we bomb De-ash/ISIS in Syria?

Annie if you've only heard 'let's bomb em" you must be listening to a different debate than I am. I'm listening to Stephen Twigg now talking about the Syrian Refugee crisis. I don't yet know which way ST will vote but he is acknowledging arguments from both sides about the situation in Raqqa.

I think we'll probably find that he's out of his seat to join a march somewhere.

No one's fault I was just thinking we must all be getting quite tired. Someone just commented that JC was "out of his seat". Well I have been "out of my seat" a few times during the day so I don't know why she was surprised.

Oh someone has just said he applauded the Speaker remaining for all the debate - and he also admired his bladder and there was me trying to be subtle

Sorry gracesgran my fault, went off piste a bit. Back on now though.

Just watching an interview - is it really 15 years since the "War on Terror"

No one has mentioned the buying of oil, the bank rolling of IS or which countries and banks are involved. It's just been - let's bomb em

Well said Doctor Sarah Wollaston

She has caught word for word everything I have tried to say on GN but perhaps I didn't put it so succinctly.

Oh dear this was jogging along so well and it is a long day for us all to get through.

Aw shucks!

I've been pressed by most speakers on both sides. How I wish that Alan Johnson had wanted to be the labour leader.
I thought Cameron made an error of judgement in his comments about terrorist sympathisers. I dislike the nasty behaviour mp's like Stella Creasy are being subjected to and felt AJ was right to make the comments he did about that.

But wrong...

It obviously still works.

Yes you are, whitewave.

Whitewave, I like it

Because I am brilliant

The association is still there though - and how do you or I know what dj meant to convey?

Oh I do ana I do

If you say so, whitewave.

No ana you misunderstand. It is the arguments used -the character matters not a jot, except the context in which it used

dj was obviously attempting, rather pathetically, to liken Cameron to Goering.

janeinsworth

No argument from me, see my earlier post . She gave an excellent speech and I believe the better speeches such as hers , Alan Johnson and Yvette Cooper are all coming from those MP's who have held posts in defence positions whilst in government.

Not sure what the point of posting that last link was, dj.
It doesn't address any of the arguments for or against the bombing.

Listening to Margaret Beckett - inspired speech, she has swayed me to support the bombing.

I thought the speech by Labour MP John Mann was perfectly balanced. He is voting no by the way.

He joined the bandwagon asking for an apology from Cameron for what he said. THEN he looked at his front bench and told them they should do the same over the harassment of Labour MP's that has/is taking place.

I believe it is true Stella Creasy did have to leave the house due to her staff receiving abuse. Interesting to know who or what organisation is so pathetic.

I say bandwagon because I felt that at the start of the debate the MP's who asked Cameron to give way were only interested in asking for an apology and wasted time, showed a lack of interest in the debate , made asses out of themselves by not asking any questions related to Syria or the debate. Thank goodness those who have spent more time in the house and looked like they are truely debating achieved to make their point they didn't like what Cameron said but they made their case in an appropriate manner by putting the seriousness of the debate/vote as their objective not as the others had done making it all about their personal hurt.

Bombing Syria will not help, it will make the world a more dangerous place